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Precisely. Y'all should peruse the standings all the way back to 2000. You'll find that the teams with the worst records...missed the playoffs...every bloody year. People are way too worked about about the standings after a heavy east vs. west schedule. It's going to change a lot as there are more divisional games. I worry about society sometimes with how short attention spans are.

Did Pall kick your dog or something? We're talking about bringing him in for a couple practices not making him captain of the team. That has nothing to do with anything. I can have an opinion but you're making this out to be a bigger deal than it is. Almost like you're taking it personally. I said I saw this guy at Stamps camp as a rookie & he can't play. I'm someone who actually went to training camp curious to see how he was doing & followed him during the exhibition season in 2012 because he was the Stamps first pick that year. Showed very little in training camp & the exhibition season that year. Pall's done nothing since to change my mind. Sure the Bombers can bring him in for a look see but...you don't build good teams on quantity. You build on quality. Why bring in a non descript National DL who hasn't stuck on 2 teams & was a first round draft bust? How can he help us? Hasn't even shown he's a depth player. Oh sorry, there's still fans here that think Jade Etienne should be brought back so why am I not surprised? Hey Etienne has proven a hell of a lot more than Pall has. He was actually able to get into some games and record some stats.

I'm guessing the city colours are blue and white. Each team with Toronto in their name with any history (Argos, Leafs, Jays, U of T) wears blue and white. I think I read somewhere it was blue, white and red and the red was the issue.

Sounds like trying to distance themselves from an abomination more than anything. Perhaps the Bombers office was just full of people who didn't want to argue with the Reebok folks? It would certainly explain why the Bombers current jerseys look so much different in style from every other teams.

No Braley perfers to operate the Braley Football League through a puppet. The only time he actually took the title for himself was when the puppet thought it could dance without it's strings.

Even the gold around the W is a huge improvement. Actually makes it look like Bomber colours. And to think, someone with the Bombers had to give this thing the thumbs up, just disgusting that they are still so out of touch.

we could just fudge the Sault Ste. Marie bit....

These are worse than the dark blue helmets they wore when Reinbold was around.

So they made two seperate designs for the Argos and opted to replace the A with a W on these ones and hope the Bombers didn't care right? Get that Argonaut **** out of here. It's blue and GOLD! Reebok you had 1 job, 1 job and you ****** it up.

If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin. and if someone else is cheatin' but you can't afford to ***** about it non stop and then change your tune when you are in that position right? Rider fans disgust me on so many levels. Worst people in the world.

Grigsby shown he has the skill to be a RB/WR type guy so he's safe in my books, at least to be that 2nd RB. If Cotton doesn't cut it, no need to waste time. Give others the chance. Or If I'm Walters I'll make a trade for Tim Brown who's buried on the Lions depth chart. Time for Cotton to cook or get off the stove. If he isn't good enough to help the Bombers or challenge Grigsby, send him down the road. you give Grigsby almost half a year but Cotton one despite Grigsby only getting the job in the first place due to injury? The point was that we need to find out if Cotton has the ability to play at the level needed. Grigsby is such a mixed bag that the only true thing we can say about him is that he has the potential but is inconsistent. Our running game is nothing short of pathetic, and it may not be completely the fault of Grigsby but something has to change or we're down to the definition of insanity. My point is that Montreal for all their flaws has a tough defense and is pretty good against the run regardless so judging the running game with Cotton only on what he does against Montreal is not a good idea. Grigsby got 8 games to show he couldn't handle the load, we gotta give Cotton a couple at least. For my money he was one of the best offensive players we dressed in preseason, give him a fair judgement period.

Saskatchewan has the money because they have proven that they don't give a **** about going over the cap. If Dressler or Sheets or both shake free they'll back a dump truck full of money up to them and to hell with the cap. Which is greatly ironic since it was the Riders who cried the loudest when the Esks would do the same.

it's 2014 now, if a kicker is having accuracy issues you don't want to keep using him. A few missed field goals with the west being as tight as it is might be the difference between playoffs or not.

Well the thought is that it's following blocks and finding holes to run through.... There's lots of examples of players who were good kick returners being fit into the offense. I think there are lots of ways you can accomplish this but trying to make them one position is just a waste of time. The point is that they should be a jack of all trades type who you can use to keep the D off balance because they are never quite sure what exactly you're going to do with them.

Grigsby shown he has the skill to be a RB/WR type guy so he's safe in my books, at least to be that 2nd RB. If Cotton doesn't cut it, no need to waste time. Give others the chance. Or If I'm Walters I'll make a trade for Tim Brown who's buried on the Lions depth chart. Time for Cotton to cook or get off the stove. If he isn't good enough to help the Bombers or challenge Grigsby, send him down the road. you give Grigsby almost half a year but Cotton one despite Grigsby only getting the job in the first place due to injury?

Whats the Bomber brand? A letter W? The W is pretty weak. We might still get a new logo on the Signatures like B.C. The Bomber brand is blue and gold. Based on the helmet I think they've forgotten that The Riders brand is green, neon lime green, and black? At leas they had some type of green in there. The bombers without either blue or gold just aren't the bombers. I mean the helmets are double blue, get that Argo **** out of here.

This might be my favourite analogy on all of the internet.

Whats the Bomber brand? A letter W? The W is pretty weak. We might still get a new logo on the Signatures like B.C. The Bomber brand is blue and gold. Based on the helmet I think they've forgotten that

True day. But at this point it looks like every team in the West will finish ahead of the 2nd place team in the East. yeah but what happens if the 2nd place team in the east stomps on the bottom 2 eastern teams and the west stomps all over the 5th place western team? Sure it looks lopsided now, but the western teams have picked up so many of their wins against the east, let's let the eastern teams beat up on each other and the western teams sort their ordering out first why not? It's not going to stay this lopsided all year simply because the schedule is back loaded with divisional games.

You are right JBR. I stand corrected. I must've been thinking of his pre-season appearance for Argos against us in 2013. We lost that game 24-6 and Portis played 4th Q for Toronto, completing 4 of 5 for 67 yds. I think he ran for big yards also. Name a qb that didn't look good against the bombers in preseason last year...

Lost in the over exaggeration about his leg is the fact that Palardy is actually a pretty accurate kicker. More accurate than Milo anyway.

You hate to see all those years of tradition of east vs. west thrown out. But you also hate to see a garbage team in the playoffs at the expense of a better team. Let's see how this season actually plays out before we make judgements on it.

my problem, I want to buy a new jerseys, but I will not pay for the crap they've come out with now. I bought a retro this summer, but I will not pay good money for the crap we wear normally and if these ones are crap I won't pay for them. Why don't they make something good and take my money? It's as good as the money the "hip younger modern crowd" has

of course it's a cash grab, every time they come up with a new jersey it's a cash grab. Did they need to do new jerseys a couple years ago? No but they can sell more if there's a new style. It's kind of hard to sell a retro jersey from a short time ago so they're going with this crap. I am just sick and tired of seeing ugly jerseys. The ones we wear now are gross, these ones seem like they'll be even grosser. Stop giving us crap for a jersey and I bet you grab more cash out of it.

we could have a group of linebackers that went 6'3 250 pounds a piece and our defense would still be vulnerable to the run. It's not the players it's the scheme for the millionth time.