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It should be equally easy to referee from the review booth....

There was a point in time when I thought that we were set for a few years with Greg Carr and especially TJH. I thought TJH was going to be a star. TJH could have been a star but he let a bad attitude ruin him.

...They were letting him work the Blizzards at DQ yesterday for Miracle Treat Day at the DQ in Shawnessy. I'm fairly certain he was employing the "One for you, 3 for me" tactic... really? And I was stuck here at work. I coulda got a blizzard from Nik Lewis, oh I woulda made jokes about that for ever.

bottom line is even in the games they've played like **** they've been close. That's all I wanted to see in the offseason. A team that could be competitive, so far they've been that.

"Roll them bones"

The way to beat RR is to keep him off the field. We had way too many two and outs. And drives killed by penalties, whether they be real or phantom ones like the one on Howard that brought back that TD to Bryant. If you give RR that much time with the ball, with a defence going on four days rest, the outcome is inevitable. Failing that you gotta plant Ray on his ass every chance you get, but the Bombers got maybe one good shot on him all game.

are you really classy and sophisticated or just in comparison to Transcona?

I am completely 100% sold on O'Shea and I like some of what Walters has done but he still has to show me a lot in terms of american scouting to get fully on board. That we have to use Romby Bryant and a hobbling Vega because the other options we have aren't good enough is a concern. I'll give him time but he's gotta do better next year in that area. Maybe it's just the transition to a new scouting staff who knows but I expect better.

Marcel Bellefeuille is the Kevin Glenn of offensive coordinators. Average.

yeah it's not his speed that's the problem, in fact I am shocked he's as fast as he is with his head so far up his ass.

That's what I was thinking. As if we needed more evidence that Friesen doesn't give a **** about his job, he's asking fans to do his work for him. What an *******.

If he's cut in Green Bay it's one step closer to coming to Winnipeg and wouldn't that be a sweet gift to get

You must be new here... I'm afraid that clown Gary Lawless has too many followers on here. Him, and a bunch of other nuts called the local Winnipeg media try and pull the emergency cords whenever any sign of setbacks comes out. I haven't visited the WFP site or listened to CJOB today, but wouldn't be surprised if someone said something dumb or reactionary to that. I had said earlier this year, the team just as it started on winning streaks will have its losing streaks too, we as fans need to realize and accept that. I'd love to see big wins like opening night and the big road win in BC Place every week, but we gotta be realistic about that and realize that just isn't going to happen every week. Especially with a team as young as ours. The way I see it, these players have a lot of learning to do, and from watching last night's game and going over other film, I more than believe they will learn lots from it. At this point, no need to do anything extreme. The O-line will need to improve, but get them healthy, maybe make an addition or 2 over the offseason this year, and I think we got an O-line of Grey Cup caliber heading into 2015. I -believe- Noeller is referring to the fact that road griller is a troll (and an obvious one). No he's pointing out that Bomber fans are as bi-polar as anyone. 5-1 everything is great, lose 2 in a row FIRE EVERYONE!!!11!!

I disagree. He saved the Lions after Skalbania's time there and he saved the Argos as well. He's pretty much responsible for Hamilton getting a new stadium from his position on the Pan-Am Games committee. He's done much more to help than hurt the League. His money has been great for the league, I'm not so sure he has been all that great.

It's just hard to watch both crappy reffing and the team playing crappy. One or the other is much easier to handle, but both is really tough.

Brown was on fire last night, just hitting nails on the head all over the place.

Come on man, that's just stupid talk. I mean hey, I don't think this team is Grey Cup ready or ready to win the west yet, but no wins out of the 10 games we got left? I mean, we got the Montreal circus show coming to town next week, and we play Ottawa again as well, those smell like pretty good wins to me. We got Hamilton again, and yeah I know they're not as bad as the 1-5 record they sit holding, but it's not like they're a juggernaut right now either. If we finish the season with only 8 wins, fine, means this team's youth and inexperience caught up to them, but that's a hell of a lot better than we've seen mostly around here lately. But this is not the 2013 Bombers, and I got more than enough reason to think O'Shea will pull more wins out before this season is over. An exaggeration perhaps. But I wouldnt be surprised if we finish below .500 on the season, watching the way the team is playing PLUS seeing how other teams have figured us out. They are running at will and blitzing at will. The officiating didnt help. But every team has to deal with the same officials. you don't think they can find 4 more wins on the schedule?

Hope that never happens because you could literally call holding on 75-80% of all plays. Talk about killing the flow of a game! you can probably call PI on the same percentage of plays too, they're both ridiculous things to be able to challenge but I bet holding affects the game more than PI does. You could be right about holding having a bigger impact. Challenges on any kind of penalties are ridiculous and leave the league open to criticism. Stick to ball placement challenges, td challenges and turnover challenges. ball placement rarely gets over turned though because the tricky spots are in the big piles and you can't see **** in there on reviews anyway. I hate the entire challenge process but challenges for penalties was and always has been a ridiculous idea. Just let the refs do their jobs and we'll deal with missed calls because over the course of a season it will balance out.

You think the Bombers OL can actually get their hands on anyone? Come on now. Besides that they seemed to enjoy throwing a hands to the face flag on the bombers OL all night.... Hell they took a Bomber first down off the board when Fitzgerald got flagged for holding, did they call any holding penalties on the Argos? They were doing stuff just as bad and worse...

The big issue was that the Bombers failed to generate any pressure on Ray. I don't care who he has to throw the ball to if you give that guy time he'll find someone. That's where the blatant holding was infuriating. When they did get a push it was just OK for the Argos OL to hold them up. Really wish Etchevary had sent some more blitzes. If you give Ray time he'll shred you no matter how many guys you drop back, might as well make him take a beating to get passes away. Ray wasn't burning the Bomber defence with long passes. Ray was getting rid of the ball quickly and his timing was spot on. Couple that with an effective run game and it made for a long night for Etch's defence. yeah and those short routes were open, why not tighten things up, send pressure and make him pay to get the ball out? That's what Teams are doing to Willy. Just sending pressure and making him pay for every ball he completes. We gave Ray time and didn't make him take a hard lick all night I don't think. That'll never beat Ricky Ray.

Hope that never happens because you could literally call holding on 75-80% of all plays. Talk about killing the flow of a game! you can probably call PI on the same percentage of plays too, they're both ridiculous things to be able to challenge but I bet holding affects the game more than PI does.

Wild is the least of the issues. I don't even think it's the size so much. It's just the scheme and we knew what we were getting with Etch. Doug Brown explained it well on the post game show, they do a lot of crazy things, sometimes guys just flat out aren't in position to stop the run. Etch doesn't care, Etch thinks there's better things to worry about. The only reason the Argos running game was a concern is because their passing game was also working extremely well. The big concern last night wasn't the inability to stop the run, it was the inability to get pressure on Ricky Ray. I don't care what kind of coverage you have if you give Ray time he is going to rape you.

I would rather be able to challenge holding than PI to be honest. Refs miss that more than they miss PI.

The big issue was that the Bombers failed to generate any pressure on Ray. I don't care who he has to throw the ball to if you give that guy time he'll find someone. That's where the blatant holding was infuriating. When they did get a push it was just OK for the Argos OL to hold them up. Really wish Etchevary had sent some more blitzes. If you give Ray time he'll shred you no matter how many guys you drop back, might as well make him take a beating to get passes away.

That's what I've been saying. Our running game (or lack thereof) has absolutely nothing to do with Grigsby. Cotton does no better. It's the entire scheme, and the personal of the Oline (who get manhandled regularly at the LOS) that is our Achilles heel, not the running back. We could have better, yes. But better won't solve the problem. he had one ******* rushing attempt! Give him a chance to actually carry the ball and get into a groove before we make any kind of judgement calls. You can keep absolving Grigsby of any blame but that's just not even bothering to look at the game objectively, that's just grasping at the low hanging fruit blaming the offensive line., Grigsby is part of the problem because of the way he runs.