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Whitaker for me as well.

How so? He was one of the biggest me first players we've had.... yeah he was damned good as a player for a few years but that was several years ago and he wouldn't do whatever the team needed him to do so **** him.

career in jeopardy, terrible signing by Walters, should never have went all in on a fragile player like that.

my favourite part was the Jake Thomas sack. Just no giving up pure effort.

Does anyone know when this wasn't the case? I've been following the CFL for at least 35 years and I don't remember a year when the East wasn't weaker than the West. 2001

Grigsby didn't really look all that bad on Friday night. The tackles for big losses really hurt his stats. He was also asked to convert a lot of short yardage. yeah he did look that bad. He did too much side to side running rather than taking the ball upfield and not getting much he ran sideways and lost more.

You think there's any chance the Riders wouldn't just back a dump truck full of money up to him?

If they could get Kelly back I think that would help. It's painfully obvious that Willy and Bryant are not anywhere close to being on the same page and they do seem to like having that big tall receiver as an option.

Pointed out in the comments section over at TSN was the following tidbit - after 20 games have been played in the season so far, only 6 have been home games for eastern teams. 14 home games for the west. Of those 6 games, 4 were against western opponents and 2 were divisional matchups. Of those 4 games, the west has won 2 (Bombers beat Montreal, Calgary beat Toronto). The point of all those possibly unrelated numbers was that there has been a huge schedule imbalance so far. Drawing any conclusions out of these early results is premature for reasons other than it's early. I agree that a crossover is likely this year, but I found that tidbit interesting. This is a very good point. I think it is obvious that the west is much stronger and deeper this year, but there is going to be some changes in the standings as eastern teams play each other more and western teams play each other more.

to me Cotton was the most impressive Bomber in pre-season. So he had the one shovel pass bounce off his face against Edmonton, it was just one play. He got another play at the end of the game and it was the single best offensve play made all game (yeah it was garbage time) IF he's not trying to catch punts and just running the ball I think we need to give him a chance.

So then, draft & develop is kind of a joke, isn't it? We're counting on one, maybe two, players each year coming up in the system. At that rate, it takes 8-9 years to rebuild a team. This is how long we are expected to wait? yes basically, unless you're interested in spending a ton in FA it takes a long time to build up a system with depth, especially when you're starting from as shitty a place as the Thrashers were in. That team really crippled it's organizational depth. They left a few good pieces in the system, but not nearly enough.

???? Romby just wasn't getting open at all. It was painful. No he was open on a couple, just that the timing was way off and when it wasn't a perfect throw he didn't do anything to try and fight back to the ball. The endzone toss if Willy threw it deeper Romby was open, instead Willy lobbed the ball up as if it were going to be a jump ball but there was no interest in that on the receivers part. There was another deep toss to him that was simply under thrown. Willy had more trouble with the deep balls this past game than he usually does. Had the one he tried to Denmark earlier where if he'd thrown it deeper was a big play but Denmark had to wait for the pass and that let the dbs get into the play.

and 2nd round picks have like a 25% chance of ever playing in the NHL so if you got 2 guys you expect to make it you're ahead of the curve...

The difficulty is that 2nd and 3rd round picks often take 4 or 5 years to be ready to even start to break into the NHL, it's development. People get impatient though expecting instant results.

Ray minus basically all his receiving weapons and a revolving door at the runningback position isn't having a fun time? Who knew! Combine that with the fact that their D is playing crappy and he's on the sidelines more often it's all pretty understandable.

I would think 10-8 gets you into the playoffs in the west without needing the cross over. I don't forsee BC and Saskatchewan having terrible records all year so there is going to be a lot of parity in the west. 11 wins might win the divsion.

I don't know. Edem lost his starting job in Montreal. Would this defence be better with Edem at safety than with Bucknor at corner? I'd lean towards no. No question Edem could have helped us last year, but who knows, in a year or two we might be thanking Mack for drafting Mulumba if he ends up here. Not to mention the talk that Walters wanted MItchell as opposed to Muamba. I like the guy but he's not perfect, no GM is. What he did do right, is hire the right man to coach the team. I knew Burke was a terrible head coach but man is it refreshing to see how O'Shea handles this team in comparison.

absolutely ridiculous sentiments. The reason Harris and Cornish are not challenged is primarily because of their passport and Charles Roberts was freakishly durable. Most running backs take such a beating their bodies can't sustain that level of play for 8 years, that's a big part of the reason why you see such a revolving door. You can bring up a guy who is capable of leading the league in rushing pretty easily, just that most of them can't sustain the level of play for many years and get replaced by another one of those new guys who is capable of doing it. With Harris and Cornish though there aren't the numbers of Canadians who can run at that level so they don't face the same kind of challenges an american would. Expecting to find another RB like Roberts is wasting time as well. He's one of the all time greats, those guys don't come along all the time, might as well ***** and moan that we haven't replaced Milt Stegall yet either. Couldn't agree with you more: Most running backs take such a beating their bodies can't sustain that level of play for 8 years, that's a big part of the reason why you see such a revolving door I was just countering some of the reasoning going on in this thread .... good running backs are hard to find and Ford was good enough ... not a discard ... that's my whole point but good running backs are easy to find... the difference between a great back and a good back is pretty much that durability, but it's a really really replaceable position. Ford was decent but simply not consistent enough to be the every day starter. Grigsby suffers from some of the same problems, not good enough at breaking tackles.

yeah Cotton earned the gig in preseason but got hurt, give him a shot before we start worrying about bringing in new guys.

absolutely ridiculous sentiments. The reason Harris and Cornish are not challenged is primarily because of their passport and Charles Roberts was freakishly durable. Most running backs take such a beating their bodies can't sustain that level of play for 8 years, that's a big part of the reason why you see such a revolving door. You can bring up a guy who is capable of leading the league in rushing pretty easily, just that most of them can't sustain the level of play for many years and get replaced by another one of those new guys who is capable of doing it. With Harris and Cornish though there aren't the numbers of Canadians who can run at that level so they don't face the same kind of challenges an american would. Expecting to find another RB like Roberts is wasting time as well. He's one of the all time greats, those guys don't come along all the time, might as well ***** and moan that we haven't replaced Milt Stegall yet either.

no, it's not because with any basic logic applied you can see that the numbers are meaningless when some teams have 2 full games less played and more still have 1 full game less played. Totals are meaningless when the number of games played is so uneven.

It was the perfect road game. Control the clock, defense steps up and doesn't give the home crowd any reason to cheer. Just suck the life out of the Lions and win without ever really having any doubts about the outcome.

Same with JFG and Kohlert. well JFG didn't play did he? Carter in there for him most of the game if he did play (Carter had a catch too) Saw Kohlert catch at least one pass... I'd say given how the Bombers spread the ball around a guy getting 1 catch when he's not named Moore or Denmark is pretty solid. What was it? 7 different Bombers caught a pass last night?

I dunno. To me Cotton is the same type as Grigsby. except that in preseason Cotton showed a much greater ability to get yards.... Seriously the Grigsby we are seeing now is the same guy we saw in preseason. It's not about type, it's about how effective they are and Cotton in preseason was better at getting a couple extra yards than Grigsby was. A couple extra yards can be the difference between a 2 yard gain and a 4 yard gain and that changes your offence a lot.

we want Cotton!