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It just seems to me that there is a lot of people getting worked up trying to figure out how to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

like I said, way way too many factors to be as worked up as people are. Worry more about adapting.

but that has more to do with age than anything else. Qbs that old who haven't established themselves don't get unlimited chances to do it. It's a narrow window and if they miss their opportunity it closes quick.

Their schools are also likely to be a factor for some teams in the NFL. Juran Bolden and Brandon Browner are two DB's who immediately come to mind that are tall who did quite well for themselves. I have no idea how Browner managed to become somebody in the NFL, I always felt he was terribly over rated in the CFL and if the refs were at all serious about calling PI he could have been flagged every play. If you ever watched the Seattle Seahawks play it would be evident very quick why he was somebody in the NFL. Now as it turns out, how much of that was aided by PED's we'll see this coming season with New England. well yeah but I'm not ever going to follow the NFL that closely, all I know is I was never that impressed by him in the CFL, thought he was just a guy who got away with a lot of penalties and got hype for being tall.

But nobody's pretending anything…we just don't know. For years we've had these guys who may, or may not be any good, and we've had questions about the coaching. Now, we have somebody we can trust to evaluate. That's the whole point of procuring somebody who will know…and do something about it, and that does warrant the optimism behind this hire. No question, I am completely behind Wylie and believe he can improve the line, but realistically there's only so much he can do without the proper horses. but what if these guys are better than they showed because they didn't get the coaching required? At least now there will be no question about it. If a proven guy can't get them to play better no one can and you get new players, but so many guys seemed to never progress that it calls into question the development.

Lots of teams are looking for a veteran middle 6 centre that I don't think 2 million per year is realistic

I think I know what my statement was meant to say... the original question in the thread was cheer for wins or cheer for losses to improve draft picks, I gave an answer to that question. If you cheer for losses then yes you are a bad fan.

well I am a scientist specializing in the Earth, and I am not proclaiming myself an expert my base knowledge of geology and geologic history of the Earth does give me a good understanding of the processes that go on. We know that the greenhouse effect is real, we know there has been a lot of CO2 released into the atmosphere in that time, the problem of course is that geologically speaking a couple hundred years is an insignificant time frame and you get into the issue of how reliable is data from 100 years ago compared to the measurements of everything they can take from today? Going back even further is much harder and gives more variables into the numbers they come up with because looking at indirect evidence always has that uncertainty. It is pretty safe to say there has been warming going on, now is it primarily driven by CO2 or are there other factors involved? Are the predictions made accurate? That's a big one and I don't think it is possible to predict what will happen because there are so many things that make a difference. The more factors you have to include the harder it is to accurately predict what will happen. Climate is still a really new area of study for science, as a result of that you start to see really detailed information from the last couple decades... but you have to make a lot of assumptions about data collected before and then you get into the fact that a couple decades, or even a couple centuries is a blip. This is the standard presentation they use to give some perspective on how old the Earth is. Compare it to a 24 hour clock and humans have only been around for just over a minute.

Their schools are also likely to be a factor for some teams in the NFL. Juran Bolden and Brandon Browner are two DB's who immediately come to mind that are tall who did quite well for themselves. I have no idea how Browner managed to become somebody in the NFL, I always felt he was terribly over rated in the CFL and if the refs were at all serious about calling PI he could have been flagged every play.

Nope, I don't agree with that at all. There are reasons why fans boo & cheer. Just saying if you don't drink the kool-aid all the time & cheer the Bombers or Jets on then you aren't a good fan is too simplistic. Just look at the Bombers last 2 disastrous on & off field seasons & what they've been through with all the ups & downs the fans have experienced. Saying any fan that was angered or didn't pull for the team to win because losing meant a guaranteed change in the regime is then a bad fan is wrong.That hasn't happened yet with the Jets. But at some point, say the next 2 seasons, we better see some marked improvement with the on ice product as well as a playoff appearance or the fans will turn. BTW, what do you think Oilers fans are thinking these days? Think they have a lot of love for their team & the people coaching & managing it? except that's not what I said at all... I said if you're a fan of the team you always want them to win games... None of this "I hope they lose so they can draft higher" crap, you always cheer for the team to win every game. I know exactly what Oiler fans are thinking, win some ******* games! (ie. cheering for the team to win) As per usual you completely missed the point and went off on a tangent.

If you trade Kane you are unlikely to get equal value for him. There aren't a lot of straight up hockey trades made anymore, usually if players are traded it's because they aren't working out and you're simply trying to recover some assets for him.

4.6 billion actually, unless they've gone and changed their estimates again but pretty sure it's 4.6

According to the link posted by comedygeek, French Canadians use his actually surname of Montferrand - Mufferaw was originally a spelling used by people who couldn't spell the name properly. Or maybe they had a problem with a real folk hero being used as a mascot. or maybe french people are just permanently pissed off about everything.

So much this. Every storm, ever cold snap, every hot spell it's not weather anymore it's doom and gloom climate change!!!!11!!!! pisses me off. I also completely agree with you how greenhouse gas emissions have usurped the environmental issues so completely and totally. There are plenty of worse things we're dumping into the environment but because it's not the hot topic of the day it doesn't matter. That **** really pisses me off. The weather is always going to be unpredictable and we are always going to have severe weather pop up, that's been going on since day 1, and it's always the poor who get hit hardest that hasn't changed either. Just that there's big business in climate change too and lots of people are making money and not solving any issues. This whole idea that you can buy carbon credits and solve the problem... nonsense. It's a wealth transfer scheme nothing more.

you never cheer for anything but wins if you are a fan of the team.

The absolute best part of this hire is that there is no question about the quality of the offensive line coach now. We got one of the best so if the players aren't playing well it won't be because of coaching.

it's probably nothing more than setting a time line. I seem to recall that last time during negotiations they played under the terms of the old one before hammering out a new deal. This move basically just says to the league no chance of that this time better get serious about a deal before the season starts.

the problem is people who believe the earth has ever been or ever will be static. Climate has been changing since the Earth began, it is a dynamic system and it is always changing. It just happens so slowly we tend not to notice it until it's happened. I fully accept that the world has experienced climate change long before man existed. I don't accept that man-made CO2 emissions have nothing to do with accelerating or exacerbating climate change. The point here is that rather than trying to worry about what caused the climate to change we should just accept that it has always and always will change and focus on adapting rather than wishing we could go back to a time that we can't go back to. This planet we live on always throws curves at us and as a species we always have to adapt. Right now we have been in a situation where developments in argiculture and industry and medicine have allowed the population to grow at a huge rate, with a bigger population comes more pollution of all types, especially as we keep trying to improve our quality of life. Eventually it was always going to catch up with us. We are an adaptive species though, we can adapt, people just might have to relocate themselves.

the problem is people who believe the earth has ever been or ever will be static. Climate has been changing since the Earth began, it is a dynamic system and it is always changing. It just happens so slowly we tend not to notice it until it's happened.

well we don't really know if they are better or not, we never got to see coaches willing to work with Elliott. That's the main point here.

So? Well one could argue that the big reason he wore out his welcome was not listening to the coaches... yet if a guy who didn't listen put up better games than anyone else has since that not listening to the coaches was a plus in the guys favour? Maybe he recognized the complete horseshit the game plan was and told the coaches so? Would have been interesting to see what he did with a different offensive coordinator here.

The Kings are one of those teams that may not score a lot of goals, but if you give them chances they will absolutely bury you because they have some real snipers on the team and they play a game that simply doesn't make mistakes and allow teams to come back.

"only 34" he says. You're old as **** dude.

even I knew the reference, come on people.

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