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Because they were obviously thinking they could turn around and turn Glenn into viable assets. I dunno.. If the bombers or any other team were in their position, would they not draft the BEST unprotected QB they could to Guarantee they have at least one suitable starting QB? Then grabbing another future HOF QB in FA only maked them that much more secure at QB?? I'm not sure i buy that they drafted Glenn in order to trade him.. or that they signed Burris just so they could use Glenn as trade bait. Maybe they did, but is seems like the least likely situation. My guess is that they go into camp with all three QBs and see who produces the most with whatever system they run. One only has to look at our QB situation the last 5 years to realize that if you don't have a CFL quality starting QB your record is gonna be pretty shitty. it's not that they drafted Glenn with the intention of getting Burris and flipping Glenn, it's that when they started to pursue Burris they felt they could do it. Now they're paying 2 starting qbs, one who is angry to not be the starter and one who hates when someone else is breathing down his neck. The Bombers being the only other team that needed a starting qb coming out and saying "yeah we're sticking with willy" is a big FU to Ottawa cause now they've got their qb controversy and they haven't even hit training camp yet. Not sure Ottawa Cares.. They can just CUt Glenn if they want to and its no skin off their back.. Maybe after signing Burris they thought about possibly gettings something for glen via a trade (but what GM wouldn't). Sounds like sour grapes from up bomber fans.. And i wanted Burris.. But i'm not the slightest bit angry or upset with Ottawa.. Naming Willy the starter before training camp is kinda silly and childish if its just to say FU to ottawa. Especially since Willy is unproven and will most likely upset Hall / backup QBs. its really inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.. you don't want to cut glenn though because taking Glenn let Calgary protect more NIs, and wouldn't they have been better off taking one of those NIs than Glenn knowing how things worked out? If they can't turn Glenn into anything then yeah they got qb depth, but they got potential issues with a qb controversy and being an expansion team overall quality and depth will be an issue so they kind of need more variety of assets rather than just depth at one position.

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I'll shout him down, he either doesn't read what people says or he doesn't type what he thinks. More likely he's trying to backtrack and hoping no one calls him on it, but I have a very good memory and I don't let people get away with that either. Couple of those guys have hated Etienne and directed their anger at him rather than the fact that it was a 4th overall pick used to take him. There is a BIG difference between the two attitudes.

I really don't agree with that. He played every position in the secondary the last few years and tried linebacker just to try and help the team win. Hefney was a me first guy for sure but I don't get that vibe from JJ. I think he's arrogant and has an ego but name me a defensive back who doesn't... He liked his stats but again name me a football player who deep down doesn't love their stats. I think people just looked for a reason to hate on the guy for poor performance and the me first thing stuck.

How is it really impressive? I see Banks as a veteran in and Vega returning from the NFL other than that it's just your usual training camp type invites... so what is it that makes it impressive?

What is it you don't understand? I don't care. He's a bust. JBR summed it up completely. Except that JBR has always displayed a different attitude than you two. You guys have hated Etienne moreso than slagging on the pick. JBR actually does focus on use of the draft pick, you guys are too busy trying to run down Etienne any chance you get.

what we were actually trying to shout down was this ridiculous notion that he was a failure before he even stepped onto the field. Don't pretend that the hate (yes hate) that some of you showed for the kid was based on anything other than where he was picked in the draft and what your imaginary draft board looked like. It may have started out that way, but you kept it up for 3 freaking years. I personally never hated the kid, but he was a huge stretch where he was picked and he ended up playing 2 good games in 3 years. Every time he caught a ball, the 'I told you so's' came out. You were wrong. I know you won't admit it even now when Jade's not a Bomber. That wasn't Jade hate. It was Mack hate for wasting the 4th overall pick. Flat out lies. I only kept it going for 3 years because you guys kept it going. I am never the instigator, I just don't back down to ignorant thoughts. Some of you seem to think you can just keep repeating it often enough that it'll become fact, I will never let that stand.

Suber wasn't as bad and plays a harder position. Johnson was fine at safety, but at corner yikes.

Because they were obviously thinking they could turn around and turn Glenn into viable assets. I dunno.. If the bombers or any other team were in their position, would they not draft the BEST unprotected QB they could to Guarantee they have at least one suitable starting QB? Then grabbing another future HOF QB in FA only maked them that much more secure at QB?? I'm not sure i buy that they drafted Glenn in order to trade him.. or that they signed Burris just so they could use Glenn as trade bait. Maybe they did, but is seems like the least likely situation. My guess is that they go into camp with all three QBs and see who produces the most with whatever system they run. One only has to look at our QB situation the last 5 years to realize that if you don't have a CFL quality starting QB your record is gonna be pretty shitty. it's not that they drafted Glenn with the intention of getting Burris and flipping Glenn, it's that when they started to pursue Burris they felt they could do it. Now they're paying 2 starting qbs, one who is angry to not be the starter and one who hates when someone else is breathing down his neck. The Bombers being the only other team that needed a starting qb coming out and saying "yeah we're sticking with willy" is a big FU to Ottawa cause now they've got their qb controversy and they haven't even hit training camp yet.

what a cop out, you flat out declared him a bust, if he goes somewhere else and has success it only goes to show that you were wrong and that those of us saying he's young and a project, give him time were correct.

yeah that's right it's a misconception because he doesn't have interceptions... Sorry Jovon you played poorly last year and it has nothing to do with interceptions.

Because they were obviously thinking they could turn around and turn Glenn into viable assets.

Just don't go crying about all the I told you sos that are coming.

If that's results in us getting someone else aside from Etch i'd be thrilled. Unless that someone is Greg Marshall of course. Marshall is a much more appealing choice than Etch IMO.

what we were actually trying to shout down was this ridiculous notion that he was a failure before he even stepped onto the field. Don't pretend that the hate (yes hate) that some of you showed for the kid was based on anything other than where he was picked in the draft and what your imaginary draft board looked like. He was a bust, 17. Thankfully he's now gone. Looks like the Bombers didn't even want him back. There wasn't hate as much as disdain that Mack could have picked him where he did instead of the 4th round where he belonged. He is 24 years old! Lots of guys don't even start in the CFL until they're older than that and you've already labelled him a bust! The Bombers were very upfront when they called Etienne a project but you haters wouldn't have it, he was a bust before he even got into training camp. I look forward to seeing you and Tburgess back tracking when Etienne shows to be a capable receiver in Saskatchewan.

Walters always have that long pause and pained expression on his face when he's answering questions in those pressers though, don't read too much into that. What he said from all indications is the canned response from a GM about always looking to upgrade every position on the team at all times.

There is plenty of point because logic dictates that my opinion is the only correct option.

what we were actually trying to shout down was this ridiculous notion that he was a failure before he even stepped onto the field. Don't pretend that the hate (yes hate) that some of you showed for the kid was based on anything other than where he was picked in the draft and what your imaginary draft board looked like.

Stewart was kept around longer than he should have been based on his athleticism. Took him years to become a solid player and it only lasted a couple seasons.

well come on, the cap going up doesn't mean that teams can afford 2 starting qbs on their rosters, it just means that when bidding for free agents teams will pay more for the players they really want and it will inflate all salaries. Not going to have teams carrying 2 starting qbs because some other team will always need a starter and will be able to pay more for that 2nd starter on another team than the team he is with. It's just common sense.

I haven't watched any of the video from this press conference, but Walters always strikes me as someone who speaks very deliberately. Doesn't just blurt out answers, he always seems to pause and think about his response and try and say the right things. I like the way he answers questions to be honest. I wouldn't blame any of them to be honest if they were frustrated, press conference to introduce the teams new qb and I suspect the media only wanted to talk about the guys who aren't there. That'd piss me off too. Talk about Willy! He's the one that is here and will hopefully be winning games for the team.

Because the Roughriders would never allow it. For whatever reason their provincial pride is tied to the roughriders so people in Saskatoon are fans of the riders, would they all of a sudden start supporting the Saskatoon Berries? I doubt it.

yeah you can't hold poor performances last year against any player, they all took turns looking poor with such horrendous leadership from the coaching. No plan, no ability to teach players how to be better, just an all around clusterfuck. Really feel bad for the players who got ruined by that set up.

well I just assume that hype and tsn hype are one and the same. Yeah he played good, but it's also an offense that Ricky Ray played amazing in so what would he do in a different situation? I dunno. Always a risk involved with backup qbs going to a new situation. Collaros showed well but... seen guys in that situation falter before.