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Oh what a low bar we set...

you can spray febreeze on a pile of **** and it might smell a bit better but it's still a pile of ****.

bluto over rating argo players? say it ain't so!

Just going by what he said before this draft I think Walters has a very good handle on what is going to happen with all the FAs from his team. If he left a guy like Kohlert open then it's likely either because he wasn't sure he would re-sign or he'd be an easy re-sign. I mean Walters very strongly implied that FAs who were left unprotected that the Bombers wanted to re-sign knew what the deal was. Not like there's a real shortage of NI receivers here either, there's lots of bodies that are possibilities.

disappointed to lose miles, he showed some real potential last year but on the other hand receivers are pretty straightforward to find.

You mean guys like Foster? Gonna go ahead and disagree with you there. What other moves were there? The Neufeld trade? Well why don't we wait to see the guy play before we judge that one? There is really very little to go on for the guy at this point, it will be determined when they play some games next year. I still think the Foster for Buck trade was a good one... even if Foster ends up being a complete bust we weren't going back to Buck and it completely eliminates any chance of going back again this year. Ripping the bandaid oh yeah it was a trade just to get something for a guy you didn't want, but it's still a nothing trade and foster didn't exactly impress here.

I really want to see who they wind up hiring as offensive line coach. Never was impressed with the development of any of the offensive linemen they brought in here be they canadian or american. Now either Joe Mack had absolutely no clue what to look for in players at that position or the coaching was just so bad that even if there was talent there they didn't do anything with it.

bad coaching makes the talent look worse than it is, if the coaches they hire this year are worth a damn you'll see... though I would expect a significant amount of turnover on the roster anyway just because of the Ottawa situation and the number of free agents.

I don't think the team is as talent devoid as it was after Reinbold. I think with good coaching there will be a lot of people surprised. Gotta remember just how little Burke got out of everyone. Even Lapolice got a ton more out of guys than Burke did.

You mean guys like Foster? Gonna go ahead and disagree with you there. What other moves were there? The Neufeld trade? Well why don't we wait to see the guy play before we judge that one? There is really very little to go on for the guy at this point, it will be determined when they play some games next year. And what other moves would you have made with the season still in progress? Not the point, point is that there hasn't been enough for us to judge yet so we gotta hold off until there's enough to actually judge. Ahhh...no premature judging....but but..I really want to judge now....I might be wrong and that would be the worst thing ever! you still didn't answer the question... cause the question is absolutely ridiculous. Foster for Pierce was just a move to dump the guy but Foster didn't do **** while here so it's a total nothing trade, we can't judge the Hall trade cause the guy they got in return hasn't played a down, the Parenteau trade the guy got hurt right away so it's another nothing trade at this point. What is there to judge? Absolutely nothing. We don't know how good this new staff is because they haven't had a chance to recruit anyone or coach anyone. You want questions answered then ask questions that actually have answers.

You mean guys like Foster? Gonna go ahead and disagree with you there. What other moves were there? The Neufeld trade? Well why don't we wait to see the guy play before we judge that one? There is really very little to go on for the guy at this point, it will be determined when they play some games next year. And what other moves would you have made with the season still in progress? Not the point, point is that there hasn't been enough for us to judge yet so we gotta hold off until there's enough to actually judge.

You mean guys like Foster? Gonna go ahead and disagree with you there. What other moves were there? The Neufeld trade? Well why don't we wait to see the guy play before we judge that one? There is really very little to go on for the guy at this point, it will be determined when they play some games next year.

I'd give it a few more moves before you say he's got a very good grasp on things. Not saying he doesn't, but let's see how things shake out a bit, eh? He is saying all the right things. Give me ONE move he's made since mack was fired that was bad. we won't know that until they actually play some games though.

nah it was pretty much the same thing as Walters said there.

wow I think some of you over reacted, I didn't read that comment as slagging the guy just rightly pointing out that there's not a lot yet to judge him on but we should be able to tell before too long into the season.

it's actually just easier to spell than his real name.

The problem with Bellefool is that the offense was so bad anything would be an improvement. He's average at best, at best. We can do better even if they have less experience.

Our wiffle-bat budget will be second to none! Gibson was the wiffle bat guy no? Wylie was just damned good at the job.

if Bob Wylie is going to coach an o-line in the CFL can the Bombers please drive a dump truck full of money up to his house and get him here?

It's clear to me that the Lions are the gong-show of the CFL. No one wants to coach there. Total disaster. Benevides and Buono are just egotistical assholes who don't play well with others. Plus I think they're connected to the mob.

OMG what a horrible place BC is, no one wants to go there, what a joke of a franchise.

I think the turn around will be faster than a lot of people think assuming that the coaches they hire as worth a damn and they get a decent qb. There is some potential here that needs developed so good coaches should hopefully be able to turn some of these guys into players.

it's horrible having to watch games where you just know there's no chance of them winning. One thing goes wrong and you knew they were going to roll over and die.

an impending free agent who hasn't established a lot in the league? I don't think that's the kind of person Ottawa is targetting. I suspect that they'll try and snap up as many linemen as possible from the NI ranks. There's enough NI receivers who are free agents they can likely get some decent ones there.