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No thanks. How you can do it I have no idea.

live somewhere with a large population of gappers you'll never hate another fan base the same way again.

Boston, what kind of sports fan doesn't know that? Was a hell of a matchup too.

People are choosing to remember 2008 when they think of Berry when a lot of people had down years, particularly Kevin Glenn. The guy knows his way around a CFL offense. He may not be the best coach but he's a good one and I don't recall him ever having a team with a poor o-line either. Hell Montreal got a lot better once he started working with the offense this year too.

This is all true. Also on the impossible to like list are Durant, Sheets, & Chamblin. I took the Stamps loss last week almost as badly as I would a Bomber loss, just b/c I so badly wanted Calgary to have their dressing room and win a Cup in their home. There problem with some Ticat fan posters, yourself excluded, is they seek out other sites to troll. For the most part Rider fans just take part in being knobs on their own site. But at least these guys "trolling" our site actually know something about football. They're clearly fans. The biggest issue with Rider "fans", by far, is that they're among the least knowledgeable in the country. As Dave mentioned, they know less about their OWN team, never mind the rest of the league, than the average person on this site knows about the Riders. Yet, they go around talking like they're the best football fans in the world. They make me sick, period. Often "trolling" is defined as simply stuff you dont like. But, whatever. Just glad I'm not the only one that can seperate the myth from the reality in regards to the riders. I suspect that a lot of the reason there's more "trolling" by ticat fans is because there's not as big an online community for them as for some of the western teams so they have to go looking at other teams forums for some discussion. I don't hate argo fan trolls or ticat fan trolls simply because at least they're fans and care enough to talk about their team in these communities, need more people as fans of those teams and maybe we can stop pandering to Southern Ontario so much.

Noeller had a room mate back then who was a diehard rider fan and I remember quite clearly one night while we were all drunk this guy says with a straight face and in all seriousness that Nealon Greene is just as good as Khari Jones... The level of delusion amongst that fanbase, I also recall rider fans at some point trying to claim that Szarka was as good a FB as Mike Sellers. I am not looking forward to the week long circle jerk that's going to happen for "Canada's team" I hate Burris very much but I have no doubts that I'll be cheering hard for him by the weekend just because I'll be so sick of everything green.

Ugh giving up the first round pick outright is too high a price to pay for a FA qb.

you have said many many times that "we can't say about this or that, only people who actually know can comment"

I've never ever showcased this mentality via this statement...not once. When there's proof to back up this kind of statement, then I make it, but I was very quick to call down Mike Kelly's insanity. Did you type this with a straight face?

Wow, have you lived a sheltered life. For every one bad Ti Cat poster there are 500 Priders on the internet throwing around ****. Sorry, but i will have to disagree iso. Yes, there are more douchey rider posters out there in total but that has to do with the sheer volume of their fanbase. I find the ratio of douchey/respectable posters to be much higher amongst Ticat fans vs. Rider fans. Ticat fans are driven by extreme fanboyism and arrogance which is surprising considering their terrible recent history (only1 cup in nearly 30 years). Onemoredork and a couple ticat fans who were banned from the other bomber sites come to mind. Rider fans are by far the douchiest if only because there are so many false fans. I know lots of people who call themselves diehard rider fans who know less about their team then everyone on this website. Too many bandwagon jumpers. At least the obnoxious ticat fans are actually fans.

And why wouldn't Miller hire a GM who has a similar way of thinking as himself anyway? It's not like he's going to go out and get a guy who is totally at odds with his ideas.

I would think making it to the Grey Cup changes things for Hamilton with regards to Burris. This is the most success that team has had in ages, how on earth do they move on from the qb who brought that to them? If they'd bowed out of the playoffs in the semi finals or even the finals then I could see them moving on but now? I dunno.

Calgary definitely played poorly. That many turnovers and missed tackles. The Riders may have won if Calgary had played a clean game but it would have been a lot closer without the mistakes from the Stamps.

I would rather see Hank play terribly but the riders self destruct and beat themselves, that would do so much more emotional damage to that "fan"base. Knowing that the game was there for the taking but they fumbled it away. That's my dream.

That's the saddest part of MIke Kellys time here, he could have been a head coach if he didn't have that massive massive ego. If he'd let someone else run a proper offense, if he hadn't been so stupid at GM he could have been a solid head coach because the players obviously played for him (something they didn't do for Burke no matter what the team says)

The most intriguing thing about khari jones as head coach is that we know from his time as a player that he's a leader and I think we really haven't had a head coach that is a real leader like that who can inspire players in a long time.

The stamps seemed to be missing a lot on their d-line, just could not stop sheets enough to give them a chance. Then when you get guys that keep fumbling the football it's not going to be a good day for you.

it's disgusting but I'm not sure it's enough to make me get over my massive hatred of Henry Burris and actually cheer for the ticats.... Wasted Grey Cup here.

But both Kent Austin and Scott Milanovich BOTH won the grey cup in their rookie year as a HC!!! I loled Sure lets keep doing what we always do. Hire a rookie GM & rookie HC for another rebuild. It's such a winning formula. You are missing the point. Rookie or veteran doesn't matter, it's whether they're a good coach or not that matters.

cause one year is always so make or break. My head is fine thanks but you might want to consult a proctologist.

The method Miller is proposing is basically the same one that was here when Lyle Bauer was in charge anyway, it's not a bad thing either, it's only bad if the managers make bad decisions so rather than worrying about who makes which decisions why not just worry about whether they'll make the right decisions.

he was also part of the Bombers coaching staff at one point and the hamilton one. Khari was in that same Hamilton one and is now in the riders and you can't really say they haven't been successful since he's been there. Right now you're just making up lame arguments that really don't hold much water.

Is anyone trying to ret-con Crowton into being anything but a giant bust?

True, but there is some accuracy there. No Chris Williams, no IWS, 1-4 out of the gate and people had them buried again. Dont even get much TSN love. Quick to pounce on games they choked and some furrowed brows when they do win. Even the usually optimistic Schultz said around LD HAM wasnt "even close " to having a team ready. It doesn't even matter if it's true or not, a team that believes that and has a point to prove is a dangerous opponent.

it's a dangerous thing.