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Ahh revisionist history. Burke was tapped as HC, because he was the most highly touted "next CFL HC" around the league. People were TERRIFIED we were going to lose him if we didn't promote him. Precisely. But that is merely fan opinion. What concerns me more is management's evaluation of head coaching candidates...or rather...the lack of it. safe to say I think that Burke was lured here with the promise that he'd be next up to be head coach. How else can you explain him just getting the job after all those red flags that popped up last season

2011 was the last time, according to a FP article this morning... and it seems to me that it was actually quite successful.

He shoulda tried winning more games, that's a surefire way to keep your job. Leading the team into blow out after blowout and game after game where the team is out of contention by halftime is not going to be good for job security.

Yeah but are you going to hire a new head coach based on an ultimatum that he keeps the current ST Coordinator? I can't see any head coach not wanting to keep a guy on staff who is that highly regarded around the league as a special teams coordinator. That's would be a pretty careless way to think if you were the GM don't you think? I think you misunderstand, I'm not suggest the Bombers dictate who stays on as assistants, I'm suggesting that any head coach would opt to keep Dickenson on staff because he's that well regarded.

Yeah but are you going to hire a new head coach based on an ultimatum that he keeps the current ST Coordinator? I can't see any head coach not wanting to keep a guy on staff who is that highly regarded around the league as a special teams coordinator.

Keep Dickenson, flush the rest of this coaching staff down the drain.

well Hall is probably going to die this week just based on the o-line, then they'll throw Boltus to the wolves, say 2 games there, then when he isn't any better they'll turn to brown, so 6 more games until Goltz is back up to #1?

Can't be expecting too much out of that team just yet, didn't inherit a hell of a lot from Atlanta and it takes time to draft and develop players and turn them into contributing players, the first draft was only a couple years ago for the jets, and I think he's done a solid job of putting a more competitive team out there than expected. That being said probably going to get worse playing in a conference that isn't the the powderpuff southeast division but I think they are on the right track, just might take a bit longer than some people have patience for.

The new offense for Max Hall better be chuck and duck cause that poor bastard might wind up getting absolutely killed.

I truly believe that Burke should have stayed as a d-coordinator in this league. I think he struggles with the media, game management and knowing who he is supposed to "coach". As a head coach, you coach the coaches and very rarely the players. I think Burke's first love is coaching the players and he is now in a position that doesn't really allow that. It is painfully obvious that he is in over his head as a head coach. Just doesn't seem to have any idea what he's supposed to be doing. Hell of a defensive coordinator but total and utter failure as a head coach.

I said it earlier in the season, Burke is the worst head coach I have ever seen since I've followed the Bombers and that includes guys like Reinbold and Daley and Kelly.

Burke is now into full on Milke Kelly mode with regards to quarterbacks. Keep going to the next guy and the next guy and the next guy if they don't win and hope that some one catches lightning in a bottle. It's a hallmark of coaches who know they're stint as head coach is coming to a close.

and let's not forget how the BC o-line is getting Lulay killed this year, they're hardly setting the world on fire.

he did, but Tim Burke didn't like him.

cornish

Cause no matter what else was going on with the team Stegall and Roberts were unquestionably among the best at their positions and you could just give them the ball and let them make something happen. There's no one on the team right now at that level.

More excuses from Burke, if he put that much effort into getting his assistant coaches to do their jobs properly maybe the team would perform better.

Wally Buono is 2/3 of the way to the 2011/2012 Winnipeg Blue Bomber qb stable.... has Wally finally lost it?

well one of the problems was also that there was no depth in terms of NIs so you can't say there were really any positions to NOT draft at. Not like the position was completely ignored either, I would be much more inclined to say that they just weren't good at identifying what made a good lineman or not, which is also seen in the lack of american offensive lineman who are any good.

Add Doug Brown to the list. were you thinking of a different Brown?

2001 should have been the year, with 2002 as the repeat. I think 2002 was the better year to do it, they were humilitated in 01, I think they woulda put things right in 2002 but Stegall getting hurt right before the playoffs and Roberts hurt first play of the west final just took too much offense away. Then you gotta deal with the phenom Ricky Ray as well, just too much to over come in that game.

If they can get Dickenson out of Calgary, I'd have Burke's office packed up while he was on the sidelines of the November 2nd game and have everything waiting by his car in the parking lot. I'd give Dickenson a blank cheque and ask him to write in whatever number it took to get him here.

Casey Creehans zone coverage.

There were red flags about Burke as HC in his first week on the job.

I disagree that firing Burke won't change anything. Maybe not in the short term but getting a new head man in here for next year will do all kinds of good, especially when he brings in a new coaching staff. Burke preaches about jobs being on the line but never actually benches anyone when they play like crap, that's a big part of what leads to a losing culture.