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what the hell has lefevour done to even be ranked?

And they have the balls to say that they listened to the fans when designing the new jerseys... Reebok can go **** themselves. Give us the royal blues permanently.

Suber is a bum when he had a damned good game? Did you notice Dressler doing anything today? That's cause Suber was doing his thing. He's had a real tough year to be sure but today he was real good.

Gotta think this is the precursor to a NI REC for NI OL deal perhaps. That's what I'm thinking... does Poblah have enough value to someone? He's the one I'd be most willing to lose.

So we now have quite a lot of NI receivers kicking around... someone on the move out?

no quarterback likes to get hit and it really seemed to me that the one that turned things around was when Wild got a good hard shot into Durants ribs. After that he was done mentally.

well guess that explains the elliott release.

when that defense flies around the field they are a lot of fun to watch.

it's long past time that Alberta passed some laws to make it legal to beat obnoxious rider fans to death.

I feel like we've been through this before. I didn't want Elliott tossed away without allowing him to compete in camp. However, based on what I saw of him I didn't think he had much more upside. Ignore the 9 game issue. I was only trying to say I think Goltz will be ahead of where Elliott was at the 9 game mark, but I apparently didn't word it very well. Our team averaged approx. 18 points/game with Elliott. He had two games that were way better than what Goltz has shown, two that were way worse, & the rest have been more or less the same. Given the obvious advantage Goltz has in his overall physical attributes, I consider him to be a better prospect. I guess my main point is that they'd already invested time into Elliott, he was more ready to start games than Goltz was... Now we've got a qb who needs more time still (and I agree that Goltz looks like he's got some real potential) it's just that we would have been better off starting Elliott this year than Hall or than Goltz and it quite frankly doesn't matter if Goltz winds up better than Elliott long term because short term the team is worse off for it.

so 9 starts is enough to judge whether a guy can be a CFL qb? Get real. What's the correct number? That wasn't necessarily what I meant anyway. It was the comparison between Goltz & Elliott that I was referencing. but even using that comparison! 9 games is enough for Elliott to be thrown on the scrap heap? That's not even a full season! I don't think there is a magic number but it's more than 9 ******* games on a team with plenty of other issues. People are too quick to throw people away here.

so 9 starts is enough to judge whether a guy can be a CFL qb? Get real.

just to be fair I think Goltz can run the playaction effectively as well, but really it should be the easiest thing in the world to make play action work on this team. Opposing defenses are so keyed on the run game it should work all the time. The key to play action isn't running the ball a lot, it's having a successful run game so the defense has to respect it. Our run game on the whole would be considered average I believe. overall you may be right, but with the Bombers, it's not about the run game being successful, it's about teams having absolutely no respect for the passing game and knowing that if they stop the run the Bombers offense is dead in the water.

just to be fair I think Goltz can run the playaction effectively as well, but really it should be the easiest thing in the world to make play action work on this team. Opposing defenses are so keyed on the run game it should work all the time.

That BC team really lacks punch offensively. Lulay is running for his life and his receivers just don't seem to be doing enough for him... and someone needs to file a missing persons report for Andrew Harris. Might as well have not even dressed for how much he was used.

yes I really think so. That o-line that edmonton is using is LOL bad, just a question of whether the secondary can cover anyone or if there's open targets immediately.

I liked the way both Parker and Wild played at the one linebacker spot this year.

which is STILL better than what we have right now. The guys we got now put up terrible stats against crappy defenses too. Elliott's not coming back. Let it go. You'll feel much better. Not until someone on the roster outperforms him.

which is STILL better than what we have right now. The guys we got now put up terrible stats against crappy defenses too.

they are funny.. stop trying so hard to find fault in everything bombers.. An uninspired **** joke is funny? This is like the Two and a Half Men of mugs. so it'll be a huge cash cow with wide spread mass appeal? Never underestimate how stupid the general population is.

He's had a couple years to develop and obviously they felt he hasn't so time for someone else to get a chance. They knew he was raw when they brought him in but at some point you gotta start making plays as an import when you get your chance.

Honestly I think Miller is a fine choice for the role he is in. I just want to see them identify the best candidate for GM and hire that person. Then that GM can bring in his own head coach because if we go with Burke next year it'll be another wasted year as he finds more excuses for why the team can't get up to play games.

They've certainly never done anything in the CFL to prove they could start and win games, at least Elliott has done that. More importantly he's done that with the roster and coaches that were/are in winnipeg this season. That is not something to be lightly dismissed. You could argue that Elliott getting the offense to move at times last season saved Crowtons job for a while longer.

what's really different about this team between the end of last season and this current season? roster looks pretty similar.

http://www.bluebombers.com/roster/show/id/3653 If "He's not Buck Pierce" is the best reason you can give to signing a guy, that's pretty weak. No I gave my reason way further back, he's better than everything else we have on the roster.