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just to be fair I think Goltz can run the playaction effectively as well, but really it should be the easiest thing in the world to make play action work on this team. Opposing defenses are so keyed on the run game it should work all the time.

That BC team really lacks punch offensively. Lulay is running for his life and his receivers just don't seem to be doing enough for him... and someone needs to file a missing persons report for Andrew Harris. Might as well have not even dressed for how much he was used.

yes I really think so. That o-line that edmonton is using is LOL bad, just a question of whether the secondary can cover anyone or if there's open targets immediately.

I liked the way both Parker and Wild played at the one linebacker spot this year.

which is STILL better than what we have right now. The guys we got now put up terrible stats against crappy defenses too. Elliott's not coming back. Let it go. You'll feel much better. Not until someone on the roster outperforms him.

which is STILL better than what we have right now. The guys we got now put up terrible stats against crappy defenses too.

they are funny.. stop trying so hard to find fault in everything bombers.. An uninspired **** joke is funny? This is like the Two and a Half Men of mugs. so it'll be a huge cash cow with wide spread mass appeal? Never underestimate how stupid the general population is.

He's had a couple years to develop and obviously they felt he hasn't so time for someone else to get a chance. They knew he was raw when they brought him in but at some point you gotta start making plays as an import when you get your chance.

Honestly I think Miller is a fine choice for the role he is in. I just want to see them identify the best candidate for GM and hire that person. Then that GM can bring in his own head coach because if we go with Burke next year it'll be another wasted year as he finds more excuses for why the team can't get up to play games.

They've certainly never done anything in the CFL to prove they could start and win games, at least Elliott has done that. More importantly he's done that with the roster and coaches that were/are in winnipeg this season. That is not something to be lightly dismissed. You could argue that Elliott getting the offense to move at times last season saved Crowtons job for a while longer.

what's really different about this team between the end of last season and this current season? roster looks pretty similar.

http://www.bluebombers.com/roster/show/id/3653 If "He's not Buck Pierce" is the best reason you can give to signing a guy, that's pretty weak. No I gave my reason way further back, he's better than everything else we have on the roster.

http://www.bluebombers.com/roster/show/id/3653

I want the guy who led the offense to improvements last season and won some games. In case you haven't noticed the offense has been abysmal this season and we haven't won games. Hee hee - what short memories we all have. The offense was abysmal last season too. By your logic we should be starting Buck right now, because he won as many games as Elliott and would have had similar offensive outputs if he had been able to play in that home game where we shredded the Ti-Cats D and Elliott won player of the week. We could have started Kenny Ploen in that game at QB with Dieter Brock backing him up and won that game. but you remember all the talk in the offseason about how Crowtons offense came into it's own and the numbers backed that up and all that stuff? That's not lies, there were several games where Elliott did move the offense until the red zone when some interceptions cropped up, that's something no one else has been able to accomplish in this offense, stringing drives together. Yeah there weren't a lot of wins, but the offense did improve with the guy. He was the best we had last year and he'd be the best we had this year were he still on the roster.

I want the guy who led the offense to improvements last season and won some games. In case you haven't noticed the offense has been abysmal this season and we haven't won games.

God I was angry at that. Sometimes they just seem to try and out think themselves.

He's still shown more than any qb we have on the roster currently. shown more propensity to throw INT's in the red zone, and not listen to the coaches. In any event, these "what if" discussions just go in circles (see Reilly, Mike) so let's just agree to disagree here. I liked Elliott too, but realized that he was just another "flash in the pan" QB like so many we've had in the past, to be mentioned now only in the same breath as Troy Kopp or Jay Walker. Hall and Goltz and PIerce are all throwing INTs as well, difference is that Elliott was able to win games with these same players and put up a couple POW calibre games. All those improved stats from the offense last season came with Elliott in there primarily... This isn't about saying Elliott is the greatest thing since Khari, but I would have a hell of a lot more faith in the teams ability to win if he was in there because he showed he could do it already.

worth pointing out ... he's never done it when we're losing I don't think it matters. The Riders were jumping around like ******* after every play, the game was close and I like to see the fire from the team when they score. Let em do their little celebrations. Rather have guys who are pumped up to score than emotionless robots. There's too little passion on this team to start with, we shouldn't be killing the bit that does exist.

He's still shown more than any qb we have on the roster currently.

Sounds like a typical NDP policy. Forget the most qualified, get someone local to do it.

Sign him quick! cut any qb on the roster to make it happen. Of course Burke doesn't like Elliott so it's not going to happen, sigh.

I could not believe when all of a sudden out of nowhere Goltz little TD thing became a huge controversy... He's been doing that since the get go and it never mattered one bit before, have we really run out of things to ***** about that we gotta go for what the young qb does when he scores? Cause I'm telling you right now there are a LOT of better things to ***** about with this team.

That is incorrect. Mack made moves, he just preferred to bring in rookies than cast offs. The number of moves isn't going to be any different, just the source of players that's changing. You have a great career as a spin doctor... Obama could use your help right now. I really did miss my calling.

That picture creeps me the **** out

we sign a guy who lost his 3rd string job? Yeah those coaches in Sask really musta loved the guy, cut him and everything.