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well what does it matter? Burke isn't long for this team and likely not Creehan either. The end of the season is shaping up to be a disaster so let's blow it up good. I'm just tired of Burkes clueless handling of the team.

If Mack really was the biggest Pierce booster then why was Pierce 3rd string until Mack was fired and now all of a sudden up to #2? I'd buy Goltz being Macks guy but not Pierce based on every single thing I've seen and heard from the bombers.

yeah but Burke hasn't ever sounded down. He's always seemed to try and find positives. The problem is that he has shown absolutely no ability to turn things around. Many of his games last season were a disaster, the start to this season has been a disaster. He's said and done some painfully bad things. Some guys are good coordinators but don't have what it takes to be the head guy, Burke appears to be one of these. It's been one mistake after the other with that guy. At best he is just absolutely not ready to be a head coach.

well it does matter because Glenn never would have been floated out there until the offseason. Remember when Pierce was first raving about PIerce (Crowton too) Glenn was the starting qb for the stamps who then took his team to the grey cup game. Lawless is a POS and has been smearing Mack every chance he gets, this just reeks of more of that.

they don't even appear to be on the same page themselves, or reading the same book so I have no faith that they can get things turned around.

but the Burke love for PIerce started before the offseason even hit and the bombers even talked about where they were going with the qb position. Burke was waiting with baited breathe to get Pierce healthy last season, I just don't accept that he was full of **** when he talked about how much he liked Pierce because he's come across as a very straight shooter thus far.

well the thing is that if the bombers made the playoffs the first match would be one of hamilton or montreal or maybe even edmonton, all those other bad teams. But the way things have gone in the last week the Bombers threw in the towel on the season prematurely.

I would have agreed there were worse teams before all this **** hit the fan... but now it appears that no one has a bloody clue what they're doing and the players will soon start to show that on the field.

yeah I'm calling him a liar. He's been so against this management regime I would not be surprised to see him outright making up crap to make them look worse.

hey no over reactions here, there is no chance in hell that Burke is kept around for next season... at least there shouldn't be, let's just finish the complete blow up that's already started.

I'm telling ya, let's fire Burke now and let Bellefool run the ship for the last couple months just to complete the mess they've put themselves into. Season is a write off already because Burke and Crowton know they're dead men walking, the players are now confused by the ******** moves being made, they'll give up in short order if they haven't already. Season is already flushed down the crapper might as well clear out all of the people who will be gone right now and make sure we hire better people this offseason.

I'm calling BS on this one. Burke was very vocal about how much he liked Pierce. Also calling BS on the price for Glenn being a 2nd rounder. Methinks Lawless is just trying to throw more **** on Joe Mack who he seemingly has something personal against.

gonna need some proof of this. Burke did nothing but rave about how awesome Pierce was from the day he got the head job.

can we bring him in so that he'll finish off Pierce for us?

Why not? The circus is already in town

You want to like Burke cause his tell it like it is attitude with the media is fantastic but what a disaster he's been at head coach.

it's not starting Hall that is the big issue, it's Goltz at #3 and Pierce at #2 that is the crazy thing.

Just blows me away. Burke has been so supportive and patient with Goltz in the media, to all of a sudden come out and have Goltz at third string now is just beyond crazy and really shows a coach in over his head.

you know what? let's just go ahead and fire Burke right now too. He's proven consistently that he has no clue what it takes to be an effective head coach in this league. Those statements are just completely unacceptable.

Yeah I really don't mind seeing what Hall can do, it's this Going to Goltz and then flip flopping and bumping him down to #3 despite doing more than Pierce that bugs me. There is obviously no plan here, the coaches are totally lost and clueless.

Then why was Hall #3 coming out of training camp? There is very obviously a disconnect in the coaching staff about the qb position.

You see? You see what happens when you fire the GM midseason? You throw the entire rest of the year and next year into the toilet completely. All for the price of millions of dollars in salaries for people to not work for you and empty seats in the stadium.

It was something the team desperately needed. a decade + of trying to make those couple moves to win now, they needed someone to take a slow and steady approach. It cost a lot of good will for Mack and he didn't get the right coaches for that plan and in the end didn't work but it was something that the team needed to do.