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talked with a reporter yesterday who said the coaches hate that Elliott doesn't watch film and doesn't prepare properly. Said that Tim Burke really doesn't like the guy and that's being polite about it. So, no....no JE under Tim Burke's watch... but TIm Burke is going to be relieved of his duties before next season...

why are we even posting this guys crap here? He has absolutely no clue about anything that isn't "ZOMG TEH RIDERS ROCK!!!11!!!"

Penton's article this morning says we should expect Pierce behind centre this week.

I would agree, that would be his biggest fault. But Lapo was not a bad coach. He was a rookie sure and a little high strung, but he certainly wasn't a dud. I think had Mack found him better players (esp at QB), made some decent trades, and didn't meddle with the roster, Lapo's teams would've performed a lot better. Lapo was a micromanager who coached the team too passively. Not a fan of that combination.

seems like teams are so focussed on the high percentage short passing game more than actually pushing things downfield these days.

that's cool, always good to see the good games in the CFL, much more entertaining than the **** show in Regina on Saturday.

if people get offended by what they read on message boards they shouldn't read message boards.

Elliotts problems were ones that were far easier to coach out in my mind than not being able to do anything right. He was at least able to move the ball, the offense showed a lot of progress towards the end of last year when he was under centre. But Burke and Crowton soured on him and didn't even want to try and work with him on the problem areas. Huge mistake simply because he was the only qb we've had in the last 4 years who has been able to put drives together.

I said last year and throughout the offseason that this year would tell a lot, and not because of the talent on the team but because of who got hired to coach. Macks single biggest failing as a GM was handing the team to a couple of duds at head coach (and all the issues that are brought on by that.)

Missed the game cause I was out pretending to be an athlete but checked the score in the pub afterwards and was shocked to see it was a high scoring close game. Way The edmonton Offense that good or the Toronto defense that bad or combo of both?

He shouldn't be a HC then should he??? I mean, someone has to be in charge. A HC always has the final say. Always except this dude. Pretty easy for Burke to defer decisions on assistants & say, "Hey, not me. I never did it.". When it blows up there's no blood on Burke. Cop out. A coach designated the OC to run the offence and pick his QB to better suit his offence. That is all that happened here. Coach Burke is wrong about many things but letting his OC choose the starting QB is was not the wrong decision IMO he's not wrong to let the OC choose the qb, he was wrong to bring it up in the media that he did it. Burke is the guy in charge, he should take ownership of every decision and not open himself up for the silly criticisms like that.

plus relying on the factor late in the game isn't the best decision to make either.

I hope people don't expect this to instantly change the offense. Trying to put in a new offense in week 7 just isn't going to happen, the biggest change will be play calling so hopefully that makes things look better but it'll be a long process transitioning to any kind of new offense at this point.

ugh I hated the jerseys the Lions had on. The matte helmets were good but the all black with a wee little bit of bright orange are no good.

cause all the LBs in the CFL are slow right?

if we based it on the first half then yeah I agree but that 2nd half was not so great and made it a lot closer.

That zone defense they try and play is just abysmal. Too many holes all over the field in that. It has to go. I'd rather get beat playing man like this defense used to because at least then you're giving the players a chance to make plays.

Burke up next.

Hall missed guys as badly as Goltz missed that throw, Pierce has missed guys as bad as that throw. Stop trying to make this sound worse than it was. Even Ricky Ray has over thrown receivers at times too.

Still faster than Pierce. Pierce is the guy who should be #3. I don't really care which of Hall or Goltz are starting just so long as it's not Pierce.

I dunno green has whiffed on more than a few catches today.

Burke deserves to be fired on the spot regardless but yeah there is no way they can stick with Crowton any longer.

I don't even think they'll fire Crowton, most likely situation is they'll just take away the play calling.

but bottom line you gotta put asses in the seats or you don't get the expected revenue.

at least our backup qbs aren't as bad as montreals.... low bar?