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I'm calling BS on this one. Burke was very vocal about how much he liked Pierce. Also calling BS on the price for Glenn being a 2nd rounder. Methinks Lawless is just trying to throw more **** on Joe Mack who he seemingly has something personal against.

gonna need some proof of this. Burke did nothing but rave about how awesome Pierce was from the day he got the head job.

can we bring him in so that he'll finish off Pierce for us?

Why not? The circus is already in town

You want to like Burke cause his tell it like it is attitude with the media is fantastic but what a disaster he's been at head coach.

it's not starting Hall that is the big issue, it's Goltz at #3 and Pierce at #2 that is the crazy thing.

Just blows me away. Burke has been so supportive and patient with Goltz in the media, to all of a sudden come out and have Goltz at third string now is just beyond crazy and really shows a coach in over his head.

you know what? let's just go ahead and fire Burke right now too. He's proven consistently that he has no clue what it takes to be an effective head coach in this league. Those statements are just completely unacceptable.

Yeah I really don't mind seeing what Hall can do, it's this Going to Goltz and then flip flopping and bumping him down to #3 despite doing more than Pierce that bugs me. There is obviously no plan here, the coaches are totally lost and clueless.

Then why was Hall #3 coming out of training camp? There is very obviously a disconnect in the coaching staff about the qb position.

You see? You see what happens when you fire the GM midseason? You throw the entire rest of the year and next year into the toilet completely. All for the price of millions of dollars in salaries for people to not work for you and empty seats in the stadium.

It was something the team desperately needed. a decade + of trying to make those couple moves to win now, they needed someone to take a slow and steady approach. It cost a lot of good will for Mack and he didn't get the right coaches for that plan and in the end didn't work but it was something that the team needed to do.

Just handing the job to Burke was the single biggest mistake Joe Mack ever made. That 52-0 labour day game and the one 2 weeks later were enough for me to say "yeah this guy isn't a good option at head coach" let alone that stupid ******* punt call in the banjo bowl. Then he goes and tells the world it's PIerce as his qb and only PIerce cut the guys with experience. Just one mistake after another.

To me it looks like the coaches are going full MIke Kelly. Gonna be a revolving door at qb with each loss hoping that the next guy will save their jobs for them.

All things that Pierce has been guilty of too, except with Pierce there is absolutely no respect for his ability to run. If Goltz failed and deserves to be 3rd string then PIerce failed and deserves to be 4th string.

Burke was done the second Mack was fired anyway. he didn't do enough to earn the job for this year let alone next year.

Let's go with Simpson. betting against the ticats D can't be too bad an idea can it?

If Goltz had his shot and was terrible then what the hell was Pierce? Goltz was better than Pierce was and PIerce gets a promotion? All Pierce deserves is to be cut.

I had that thought as well, sure he can at least get a look as a special teamer down there right?

took them long enough to put Swiston in ahead of Morley. Not sure how a veteran player playing that underwhelmingly got the leash he did.

starting Hall isn't necessarily a bad move, a lot of people figured he'd wind up as the #2 coming out of camp anyway and might be the best option for the season. The real issue is how much this just screams coaches desperately trying to save their own asses now that the GM has been canned. Hated the timing when it happened, hated it more now. Yeah 1-5 sucks, but with back to back with Hamilton on the way it was a great chance to get into a better spot... then with back to back against Edmonton not far away either it was yet another chance to improve their lot. Now we're seeing a bunch of what appear to be knee jerk moves and it really does look like they just threw in the towel already.

just proving once again that they blew it up at the worst time possible. Should have done it after the back to back with Hamilton.

how so? If it was then wouldn't they go back to Pierce rather than the third string? It's no secret that Burke is a Goltz fan, he has been the whole time, it's also no secret that Crowton is Halls biggest thing. I would suggest that this is nothing more than the coaches now realizing that they're next up to be fired so if they're going to be fired they're going to go with the players THEY want to go with.