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Well I just got a chance to watch that game and here's an example of why the coach isn't always the problem... 2nd down and 7, Goltz throws to Simpson short of the first down, Simpson tries to run all the way outside despite the Argos having enough bodies to string it out... he winds up 2 or 3 yards short when there were plenty of opportunities to man up, take the hit and go forward and wind up at least close enough where gambling on 3rd down is an option if not getting the first down yourself. Result is a 2 and out. There was another play where Simpson took the handoff, the play was obviously designed to be inside but the o-line got owned on the play so he bounced outside which was a smart call, but again rather than manning up and cutting up for a short gain he tried to run outside and got caught for a loss of yards. It's not all the play calls, there's a lot of plays being left on the field because the players aren't executing very well.

There's more to it than just that though. I mean Burke took over when they fired Lapo and his team got hammered 52-0 and showed no signs of life! That should be the easiest situation to motivate a team ever and he failed to do it. I like Burke and his honesty, I just still wonder if he's got the right stuff to be the man in charge.

I do what I can. But what I'm saying is, you weren't happy with the offensive performance so you have taken every single opportunity since to run down everything about Gary Crowton. I'm saying your bashing of the coach is out of line when it's clear that sometimes it's simply a case of the players flat out not doing their jobs on the field.

yeah the only time I remember seeing anyone refer to Etienne as Macks pick was from people trying to avoid giving Mack credit for it when it looked like Etienne was showing progress this year in training camp. No one ever tried to call him Lapos pick to save mack from getting the blame for a bust... all everyone said was have some patience with the kid before tossing him under the bus.

yeah because our top 3 guys (whether you still believe Edwards is talented enough or not to be there anymore is irrelevant he's a PIerce favourite to throw to) are injured. I'm not talking about in the games right now, just overall.

you are choosing to believe that a profession coach who has coached for years doesn't recognize what his players can and can't do... I dunno seems to me more like that you have an axe to grind and will find evidence to support that agenda no matter what.

I think you're misinterpretting what people were saying about Coehoorn or Ianuzzis stats. They said they were good but hardly ground breaking numbers. If Etienne can put up 800 yards as the what? 4th or 5th receiver that's pretty damned good for a guy in that position and given his young age could lead to him becoming a more focal part of the offense and getting more numbers in the future.

or his tacklers are taking away the outside and Simpson isn't recognizing it and going inside. Simpson is flat out not playing well and it's not because he's too slow to run outside. You are making the problem too complex. This is a player playing without confidence and he's trying to get yards the "easy" way by stretching it horizontally. You see it happen all the time to runningbacks who are struggling.

ridiculous, he is fast enough to run outside, they just do it too much is all.

I was under the impression that Crowton basically copied it all anyway and that Pierce was just incapable of of actually making the quick reads. He's never really been a cerebral player, always a guy who got by on his moxie.

was there anyone in the hamilton D been effective in that D the last 2 years?

or is Milanovich throwing up a smoke screen regarding his star player? I'm not doubting that Madani is full of ****, I'm just saying I don't expect a lot of truthiness out of the Toronto coaches regarding Ray until we see him suiting up for the game.

or you know, just go out on a limb and pick someone from another team ya homer.

was that the guy who injured pierce? if so give him a pat on the back will you?

are you suggesting that the bombers don't cut veterans? Cause Hefney might disagree with you there.

bottom line experience or no hire good people.

because Mike is better than the rest of us and is allowed to swear, we aren't.

what's so weak about them? The argos were a team that needed great D, scoring from special teams and their D to force turnovers in order to win games prior to Ray showing up and I don't recall you evey saying how poorly they were constructed. Point is absolutely valid, if you don't have a qb your team is more than likely going to suck unless everything else goes right.

and the bombers were 10-8 in 2011 and in the grey cup game.... Do you actually have a point or just more blind homerism?

Iso has been beating the Higgins drum pretty hard for a while.

funny because that's exactly what the Argos looked like until they got a qb.... or do you mistakenly think the team suddenly got built differently? It's the CFL, if you have a qb you always have a chance, if you don't have a qb you're screwed.

I'll give Sheets another chance. That Hamilton D is just so bad.

I think you're over stating how attatched to Pierce Mack is. Not like he ran out and grabbed him immediately, he initially wanted no part of him but signed him anyway just because of lack of options. This past offseason I definitely got the impression that Mack was willing to move on from Pierce but Burke was the one who was adamant about keeping him. To me it's a GM giving the coach the player he wanted and trusting him. Ends up a mistake but I do think that if a GM believes in his coach then he has to give him the kinds of players that he wants.

the bad news is we LOST to hamilton and montreal.

I was making a short joke but hey whatever floats your boat. Tackling guys bigger than you at the knees (everyone in subers case pretty much) is just a fact of playing football.