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well at least we can likely count on the riders putting him on the IR for a lengthy time again. There is just absolutely no reason to go back to Buck Pierce at this point. Biggest mistake of the offseason was sticking with him trying to tailor the offense to keeping him healthy and having that absolutely bomb because PIerce can't play that way and then scrambling to change it all around and then shuffling through all the qbs. Just move on from Pierce already, the team won't go anywhere until they do.

The season is already lost! They're 1-6, Hamilton is basically uncatchable now after losing 2 games to them, they've fired the CEO, the GM, the OC, the HC is probably not far away from being fired as well... How is the season NOT over already? Oh sure technically they have a chance to put some wins together and get into a playoff position over Montreal, but come on, if they can't even get things going at home against Hamilton what makes you think they can do anything else? Years a write off already because of the decision to stick with Pierce.

If you'd listened to our new offensive coordinator you'd know that they already realize that the season is lost, in large part because they stuck with Pierce for as long as they did. Lots of talk about evaluation of players now which is coaches code for "well not much to play for now"

thank god.

correction, hired terrible coaches, cost him his job.

You guys (not just you) put way too much stock in what is said to the media. What do you expect Burke to say to the paper about one of his coaches? "Yeah, the guy's a little green, keeps coming up with 4th down plays no matter how many pamphlets we leave him..." Ditto Lapo speaking on Crowton's hiring. He was forced by Mack to take on an OC because our O was lousy. Everyone knew that. Of course he would publically endorse Crowton to the media as it was a way for him to save face and make the team look cohesive and on the same page. and some of you are so dead set on making things into a conspiracy that you ignore the obviousness of situations.

those ints stick out rather badly though

because no one has been able to make us forget about him. You release a qb you better have someone better to take his place, that was not the case here.

This post makes my head hurt on several different levels.

but PIerce isn't the answer either and there's another thread on this very site that quite nicely illustrates how PIerce is not better than the other options. Going back to Pierce is a step back just like it was when they made that decision in the offseason. Time to cut your attachment to an obviously finished player.

Burke raved about Crowton, he even said he thought he'd be a great HC in the CFL. Too many people trying to pin everything bad on Mack. Lapo hired Crowton not Mack that is well established. Burke kept him that's well established. The mental gymnastics that some people will go through to pin everything bad on Joe Mack is just absolutely astounding.

with Buck it's much less about missing games as taking all the reps in practise and then getting hurt in the game and we have to throw a backup in there without adequate preparation and don't you dare try and say that hasn't happened this season. Pierce hasn't been better than the backup qbs and when he's always getting hurt it is THE distraction so it's high time we just get rid of the guy and move on.

And Bellefeuille did also say there were some really good things in the offense too, but sounds like a lot of simplification and just letting athletes be athletes rather than having to think on the fly all the time. I'll say this too, it is a real sad day when Bellefeuille is seen as the saviour of the offense. yuck.

We can only hope... Any head coach that doesn't take responsibility for player moves especially at qb as well as one side of the football because he says he's not qualified shouldn't be in charge. I'm gonna give Burke some slack on this one. After all, he's had to deal with Mack and Crowton. Let's see how he does with Marcel. Burke can now help Casey with the D. To me, it's a win-win. Dear Wade: Thank you! oh please, what has burke done to earn that slack? He kept Crowton around as his OC. That's as big a red flag as there is. Burke seems to be one of those people who values coaches as much for their good guy factor as their actual abilities to coach.

Liked a lot of what he was saying, especially talking about how they need to find something that they do well and can rely on.

No it's because pederson is a ***** who throws a lot of **** against the wall hoping some of it sticks.

for **** sakes, even in those games where he turned the ball over, he was still able to put drives together and move the offense. That's something every other qb we've used in the last 4 years has flat out struggled at the best of times to do. Like I said, the guy had some problems that to me seem like they are easier to fix then trying to make guys who can't even move the ball into better players. Hell one of the reasons Burke was so pissed at Elliott was all thos eturnovers against Calgary, has flat out said kick field goals and they win that game, so in that situation why not try and coach those mistakes out and try and get the guy to improve his habits if that's the problem? There was more to work with there than with anyone else.

How about a coach that is willing to try and improve a guys habits?

I said.....

I don't care which of Hall or Goltz it is, just give them a good long run to see if they will take over the team.

the thing that bugs me is when the public figures read something they don't like about themselves and pitch a **** fit about it. Don't want to open yourself up to that kind of criticism then stay the **** away.

talked with a reporter yesterday who said the coaches hate that Elliott doesn't watch film and doesn't prepare properly. Said that Tim Burke really doesn't like the guy and that's being polite about it. So, no....no JE under Tim Burke's watch... but TIm Burke is going to be relieved of his duties before next season...

why are we even posting this guys crap here? He has absolutely no clue about anything that isn't "ZOMG TEH RIDERS ROCK!!!11!!!"

Penton's article this morning says we should expect Pierce behind centre this week.

I would agree, that would be his biggest fault. But Lapo was not a bad coach. He was a rookie sure and a little high strung, but he certainly wasn't a dud. I think had Mack found him better players (esp at QB), made some decent trades, and didn't meddle with the roster, Lapo's teams would've performed a lot better. Lapo was a micromanager who coached the team too passively. Not a fan of that combination.