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With a 5 party system it's near impossible for 1 party to get 50% plus in a general election.

I find him smug and disingenuous. Maybe it's his acting background but he always seems to be putting on a bad performance. I thought his victory speech was very smug and while Harper and Mulcair were gracious in defeat, he took some veiled shots. Maybe its just the way he is and he's being genuine. But he doesnt come across that way to me at all. And its not my bias talking as I thought Mulcair had done a good job of putting the Angry Tom stuff behind him and was pretty genuine in his speeches and I would never vote for him. Trudeau reminds me a bit of of Obama except Obama is a much better public speaker. But they both ran on "change" and little else. A winning strategy no doubt. Angry Tom would have come back had he been elected PM, don't you kid yourself. He's my age & you just don't change at that point in your life with the snap of the fingers. e has a temper & if elected he wouldn't have cared. I dont disagree. Im no Tom fan. Just that I thought he did a good enough job of coming across statesmanlike and sincere. Or sincere enough. And I've always thought Harper delivers good speeches. CTV briefly mentioned this while Harper was entering for his concession speech that he's very good with the media and it perplexes people why he is so standoffish with the, But Trudeau? Its like bad Shakespeare in the Park. My opinion, but just seems like a guy putting on an act and not doing a very good job of it. So, you think Trudeau is disingenuos but Mulcair not? You already said that you think the NDP did a good job of trying to change Mulcair's image from that of an angry old man to that of a caring & compassionate leader which isn't true. That's why in the past few weeks seeing his ad where Mulcair's talking softly, smiling & saying he's ready for change if we are came. across as so phony. He looked uncomfortable talking & acting that way because that isn't him.. I voted Conservative in my riding & have always voted that way since the 74 election when I was 18, be it the Tories, Reform, Canadian Alliance & Cons. Even though I was drinking my blue kool aid I could see that Captain Steve O going down with his ship.The Cons election campaign strategy was an unmitigated didaster. Of all the ads shown by the 3 major parties, Trudeau came across the best. His "I'll tell you what I'm ready for" ad sounded the most sincere of all of the political ads combined that I saw. It was hokey but Trudeau looked like he had a chip on his shoulder thanks to the incessant Cons attack ad of him. Not happy the Cons are out but it is what it is. But My God man, quit the whining & just get on with your life. You constantly post about how much you hate Trudeau & give the man no credit at all. Run for public office then in 4 years for the Cons & give your words some meaning. Put your money where your mouth is. . Are you suggesting someone cannot have an opinion that is counter to the governments (or yours) unless they are willing to run for office? Have you every been critical of the Bombers' coaches? If so, have you considered becoming a pro football head coach? If not, you cant criticize. Who is whining? Expressing opinion here is whining? I never said one thing about the Cons losing the election. Get on with my life? Who are you to tell me that? Get over yourself. Im sorry you and I disagree (I guess) but posting here is neither me whining nor is it some evidence that my life is on hold because the Liberals won. Please, assemble my posts where I have repeatedly stated how much I hate Trudeau. Please do that. And again, why is opinion of Trudeau related to opinion of Mulcair? If I think Mulcair is a more genuine speaker, why cant I also think Trudeau is not? Its called opinion. Try expressing yours without needlessly attacking other posters. Attacking? LOL! That's all you do. People who live in glass houses first of all shouldn't criticize others & secondly should not throw stones. Please list examples. Yes, I'm guilty as charged for the crime of having an opinion. For that I am being sentenced to death by hanging. There's the gallows. Throw the lever & drop the floor. Let me hang until dead. Yea, though I walk through the Valley Of The Shadow Of Death, I fear no evil. Thy rod & thy staff, they comfort me. I'm entitled to one last dinner of choice, prime rib on the barbecue. Also a cigarette & whiskey on the rocks before my execution. I also have but one last simple request... I have a letter in my back pocket for my family. Please make sure they get it & tell them... I loved them.. And...I lived to see another day. Maybe you should ask for clemency. And for the record, I wasn't attacking you. I was responding about what you said about Trudeau & Mulcair. You constantly say the same things over & over & over & it comes across as whining. That Harper & the Cons can do no wrong. Well, this past election they did a lot of things wrong. You may not agree about the whining part but that's the perception of you I get. Guess the bottom line for you & me is if we can't stand the heat then don't post.

I find him smug and disingenuous. Maybe it's his acting background but he always seems to be putting on a bad performance. I thought his victory speech was very smug and while Harper and Mulcair were gracious in defeat, he took some veiled shots. Maybe its just the way he is and he's being genuine. But he doesnt come across that way to me at all. And its not my bias talking as I thought Mulcair had done a good job of putting the Angry Tom stuff behind him and was pretty genuine in his speeches and I would never vote for him. Trudeau reminds me a bit of of Obama except Obama is a much better public speaker. But they both ran on "change" and little else. A winning strategy no doubt. Angry Tom would have come back had he been elected PM, don't you kid yourself. He's my age & you just don't change at that point in your life with the snap of the fingers. e has a temper & if elected he wouldn't have cared. I dont disagree. Im no Tom fan. Just that I thought he did a good enough job of coming across statesmanlike and sincere. Or sincere enough. And I've always thought Harper delivers good speeches. CTV briefly mentioned this while Harper was entering for his concession speech that he's very good with the media and it perplexes people why he is so standoffish with the, But Trudeau? Its like bad Shakespeare in the Park. My opinion, but just seems like a guy putting on an act and not doing a very good job of it. So, you think Trudeau is disingenuos but Mulcair not? You already said that you think the NDP did a good job of trying to change Mulcair's image from that of an angry old man to that of a caring & compassionate leader which isn't true. That's why in the past few weeks seeing his ad where Mulcair's talking softly, smiling & saying he's ready for change if we are came. across as so phony. He looked uncomfortable talking & acting that way because that isn't him.. I voted Conservative in my riding & have always voted that way since the 74 election when I was 18, be it the Tories, Reform, Canadian Alliance & Cons. Even though I was drinking my blue kool aid I could see that Captain Steve O going down with his ship.The Cons election campaign strategy was an unmitigated didaster. Of all the ads shown by the 3 major parties, Trudeau came across the best. His "I'll tell you what I'm ready for" ad sounded the most sincere of all of the political ads combined that I saw. It was hokey but Trudeau looked like he had a chip on his shoulder thanks to the incessant Cons attack ad of him. Not happy the Cons are out but it is what it is. But My God man, quit the whining & just get on with your life. You constantly post about how much you hate Trudeau & give the man no credit at all. Run for public office then in 4 years for the Cons & give your words some meaning. Put your money where your mouth is. . Are you suggesting someone cannot have an opinion that is counter to the governments (or yours) unless they are willing to run for office? Have you every been critical of the Bombers' coaches? If so, have you considered becoming a pro football head coach? If not, you cant criticize. Who is whining? Expressing opinion here is whining? I never said one thing about the Cons losing the election. Get on with my life? Who are you to tell me that? Get over yourself. Im sorry you and I disagree (I guess) but posting here is neither me whining nor is it some evidence that my life is on hold because the Liberals won. Please, assemble my posts where I have repeatedly stated how much I hate Trudeau. Please do that. And again, why is opinion of Trudeau related to opinion of Mulcair? If I think Mulcair is a more genuine speaker, why cant I also think Trudeau is not? Its called opinion. Try expressing yours without needlessly attacking other posters. Attacking? LOL! That's all you do. People who live in glass houses first of all shouldn't criticize others & secondly should not throw stones.

So why are you making an issue out of Trudeau's delivery? I'm not. Someone else mentioned his speech and I expressed my opinion. Im sorry, are we only expressing certain opinions here? Speaking of being disingenuous, your "who, me?" act is getting old. So why are you making an issue out of Trudeau's delivery? I'm not. Someone else mentioned his speech and I expressed my opinion. Im sorry, are we only expressing certain opinions here? Speaking of being disingenuous, your "who, me?" act is getting old. Hear! Hear!

I find him smug and disingenuous. Maybe it's his acting background but he always seems to be putting on a bad performance. I thought his victory speech was very smug and while Harper and Mulcair were gracious in defeat, he took some veiled shots. Maybe its just the way he is and he's being genuine. But he doesnt come across that way to me at all. And its not my bias talking as I thought Mulcair had done a good job of putting the Angry Tom stuff behind him and was pretty genuine in his speeches and I would never vote for him. Trudeau reminds me a bit of of Obama except Obama is a much better public speaker. But they both ran on "change" and little else. A winning strategy no doubt. Angry Tom would have come back had he been elected PM, don't you kid yourself. He's my age & you just don't change at that point in your life with the snap of the fingers. e has a temper & if elected he wouldn't have cared. I dont disagree. Im no Tom fan. Just that I thought he did a good enough job of coming across statesmanlike and sincere. Or sincere enough. And I've always thought Harper delivers good speeches. CTV briefly mentioned this while Harper was entering for his concession speech that he's very good with the media and it perplexes people why he is so standoffish with the, But Trudeau? Its like bad Shakespeare in the Park. My opinion, but just seems like a guy putting on an act and not doing a very good job of it. So, you think Trudeau is disingenuos but Mulcair not? You already said that you think the NDP did a good job of trying to change Mulcair's image from that of an angry old man to that of a caring & compassionate leader which isn't true. That's why in the past few weeks seeing his ad where Mulcair's talking softly, smiling & saying he's ready for change if we are came. across as so phony. He looked uncomfortable talking & acting that way because that isn't him.. I voted Conservative in my riding & have always voted that way since the 74 election when I was 18, be it the Tories, Reform, Canadian Alliance & Cons. I've never voted for the Libs or NDP. Even though I was still drinking my blue kool aid Monday, I could see that Captain Steve-O was going down with his ship.The Cons election campaign strategy was an unmitigated disaster. Of all the ads shown by the 3 major parties, Trudeau came across the best. His "I'll tell you what I'm ready for" ad sounded the most sincere of all of the political ads combined that I saw IMO. It was hokey but Trudeau looked like he had a chip on his shoulder thanks to the incessant Cons attack ads of him. Not happy the Cons are out but it is what it is. But My God man, quit the whining & just get on with your life. You constantly post about how much you hate Trudeau & give the man no credit at all. My advice? Run for public office then in 4 years for the Cons, try to make a difference & give your words some meaning.

Murphy was here in 2008, wasn't he?

I find him smug and disingenuous. Maybe it's his acting background but he always seems to be putting on a bad performance. I thought his victory speech was very smug and while Harper and Mulcair were gracious in defeat, he took some veiled shots. Maybe its just the way he is and he's being genuine. But he doesnt come across that way to me at all. And its not my bias talking as I thought Mulcair had done a good job of putting the Angry Tom stuff behind him and was pretty genuine in his speeches and I would never vote for him. Trudeau reminds me a bit of of Obama except Obama is a much better public speaker. But they both ran on "change" and little else. A winning strategy no doubt. Angry Tom would have come back had he been elected PM, don't you kid yourself. He's my age & you just don't change at that point in your life with the snap of the fingers. e has a temper & if elected he wouldn't have cared.

Did your Liberal candidate work hard to make herself known or was it the "Red Wave" similar to the "Orange Crush" here in AB that got the NDP elected? An anti establishment vote saying people wanted change?

When the Stamps hired Hufnagel in December 2007 they never had what they have now. Huff built the orgazization & hired people from the ground up & put them into place.

Agreed as it just made people angry. And it never stopped. Over & over. The Chinese guy who could barely speak English & old the blue haired guy pissed me off. I still voted Conservative as the candidates in my riding did nothing to make me vote for them. No door knocking & no campaign literature. Had the Liberal candidate did one thing I may have voted for him but he never earned my vote. Then again, Jason Kenney won by 20,000 votes so it was hopeless anyway. But still try godammit. I'm also in one of the 'safe con' ridings. The Lib candidate didn't come around, but she did have a good website with pertinent info. Her background is broadcast journalism, which would be an asset to an MP, IMO. Very good candidate - she got my vote. In the end, cons retained the riding easily - by 10 000 votes. The Libs in Calgary-Midnapore which is my riding had 50,000 people who cast ballots & even though the Lib candidate did virtually nothing for visibility in our riding still got nearly 13,000 votes so I think that speaks for the fact people still wanted change. I also think candidates who rely strictly on a flashy website to get their message across are lazy. It costs nothing to go out in the community shaking hands or door knocking handing out literature. . To be honest, the assumption is that Hutterites will vote Conservative - with good reason. Not much incentive for a Liberal or NDP candidate to visit a Hutterite community Okay, well your situation is unique. But in other ridings...

So let me understand this. We keep MOS who won't have 15 wins over 2 seasons because "We Like Him" but fire Huff if he had the same result??? What's wrong with that picture???

If the Stamps force Huffer out, it would probably be a mistake of epic proportions. Dave D. may turn out to be a good head coach, but it is a roll of the dice. Even Popp and Buono, who are pretty bright guys with tonnes of experience, have had difficulty finding good coaches. Can't see that happening. Just can't. Huff agreed to let Dave take the reigns. My understanding is that it was Huff's idea.

Send in the Sea Kings.... They'll all crash anyway.

Yeah, when they said that I just shook my head.

Agreed as it just made people angry. And it never stopped. Over & over. The Chinese guy who could barely speak English & old the blue haired guy pissed me off. I still voted Conservative as the candidates in my riding did nothing to make me vote for them. No door knocking & no campaign literature. Had the Liberal candidate did one thing I may have voted for him but he never earned my vote. Then again, Jason Kenney won by 20,000 votes so it was hopeless anyway. But still try godammit. I'm also in one of the 'safe con' ridings. The Lib candidate didn't come around, but she did have a good website with pertinent info. Her background is broadcast journalism, which would be an asset to an MP, IMO. Very good candidate - she got my vote. In the end, cons retained the riding easily - by 10 000 votes. The Libs in Calgary-Midnapore which is my riding had 50,000 people who cast ballots & even though the Lib candidate did virtually nothing for visibility in our riding still got nearly 13,000 votes so I think that speaks for the fact people still wanted change. I also think candidates who rely strictly on a flashy website to get their message across are lazy. It costs nothing to go out in the community shaking hands or door knocking handing out literature. .

Agreed as it just made people angry. And it never stopped. Over & over. The Chinese guy who could barely speak English & old the blue haired guy pissed me off. I still voted Conservative as the candidates in my riding did nothing to make me vote for them. No door knocking & no campaign literature. Had the Liberal candidate did one thing I may have voted for him but he never earned my vote. Then again, Jason Kenney won by 20,000 votes so it was hopeless anyway. But still try godammit.

Welcome to Camelot.

Age? Citizenship?... Voting for Mulcair?

Well, people say they wanted change. They wanted Harper gone so they said. Now, it'll be up to Justin to meet a lot of people's lofty expectations. We'll see how that goes. Selling hope is easy on the election trail. It's quite another in real life. Just ask Obama.

Terrible GMs & inexperienced coaches. Sound familar, Bomber fans?

What a strange thread.

Message pretty clearly is that Harper and his tactics didn't win out. This was a blowout, and that's even with the west once again going blue almost everywhere. Mulcair is not wrong. Mulcair got the boots taken to him. How is he not wrong?

In his riding when he resigns or as Conservative leader?

The biggest issue is how much have we actually progressed?? especially when we're now likely to have a worse record in year 2 of this regime... Progressive??

Yay!!!