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Oh no! Now instead of losing every game for the rest of the year, we might lose every game for the rest of the year! Correct. Might? Glass half full I see.

Yeah, I agree with that. Good observation. Taking Neufeld for a second pick? Nope not a chance. Haven't you completely contradicted yourself? What I meant is the guy is probably the same as a second round pick coming out of CIS, I'll admit that but he isn't worth an actual second round pick. I was talking about what he'll become as a player for us. We already gave up Hall to get him so we didn't need to also give up a second round pick to the Riders. The guy is expected to start so you can't ignore that.

We have no idea what it is going to take to pry a qb from a team this off season. A veteran player & a second round pick might have helped do it. Trading away a high draft pick so early won't help us find a qb later. All we're doing is handcuffing ourselves.

Yeah, I agree with that. Good observation.

Taking Neufeld for a second pick? Nope not a chance. The man is going to be a journeyman player. Someone who in 3 years probvably won't be starting & the Riders may have a player we could have used playing & starting on their roster. We panicked & made the trade. Like I said earlier, I'd have been okay with a one for one swap but we paid too high a price giving up our second round pick. If the Riders insisted on a draft pick, I'd have backed off. Maybe offered them Etienne or something. He's a bust.

He's applied for every opening in the CFL so I'm sure he is.

So any NI who started some games at tackle is a "starting NI tackle?" There's no variability in quality? Paul Swiston is therefore a NI starting tackle now. That's about the level of player we're getting, so don't get your hopes up too high. Neufeld has much to prove. The only reason this trade isn't a total fleecing is because we dumped a 14 pick for a 15 one when there will be a full draft pool, but there's no way we should have had to give up 2 rounds in that swap. Neufeld isn't a top 6 OL for the Riders and had very little chance of making their team next season regardless of Ottawa. Should have been no need to sweeten the pot, and if it was insisted upon, play hardball. Neufeld started 13 of 17 games in 2012 and the West-Semi...Pretty different from Paul Swiston's situation. He occasionally breaks into our terrible starting line. Steve Morley was a starting tackle for Calgary and started all of 2009 at tackle for us. Not an indicator of ability, nor an indicator of current ability. Judging by the comments on Riderfans about the ability of Patrick Neufeld, I think he & Morley are about the same. If so, we have a younger Steve Morley & gave up a second rounder for him??? The fans in Saskatchewan are all over that. They love they get the 10th pick in the draft & we don't.

Sure it's easy to throw out a bunch of names. But Would you really want any of these guys? I'd rather stick with Walters over any of those washed up GM's. There are a few AGM's out there but still unproven when it comes to running a team on their own. So, you'd hire another guy trying to prove himself (Kyle Walters) over a guy (Tom Higgins) who has coached & managed two CFL teams & won a GC in Edmonton? That is why this team is so bad & has been bad for so long. We keep recycling thru the same inexperienced cheap hires to run the team. Walters has proven exactly, what??? All he should be is a caretaker GM until we hire someone else & that is it. The experienced guy we need here is Higgins. Not Tillman who is a pervert, Macciocia who is a bumbling fool, Obie & Rita who are too old. Too old........70 is the new 50 man, get with it, and who better to hit free agency with than a wily old coot. I know Rita is retired for good. Same with Obie. And as far as Higgins goes, He's been Director Of Officiating so he sees every game. He knows the direction the CFL is going as far as the style of play is concerned. He's in his late 50's. Has all of his connections. He'd be a great addition out of all those guys listed.

Henoc gets MOP, MODP, MOC, hell let's let him play one game on the o-line and call him the most outstanding o-lineman too He'll be next...

This is why I don't like the "interim" GM making deals. I know the "interim" President okayed the deal but until they are named into permanent positions they should be caretakers of the team & nothing more. Not making deals. if this deal ultimately is a bad one for the team & they're not around then who is accountable??

when you're trading rental players you are doing it with an eye to rebuilding, if you're rebuilding you don't give up the better draft picks. Hall for this guy fine but having to add the 2nd round pick, which will be a high 2nd round pick is just unacceptable. Neufeld needs to turn into a damned good player for this trade to be worth it but right now one of the best DEs in the league and a 2nd round pick for a backup offensive lineman and a 4th round pick is not a good trade. You have all the leverage here you should not be the one giving up the better draft pick. Highly unlikely the Bombers had much leverage. Whole league knew Hall is going to the NFL. And like I said in the post above the Rider fanbase EXPECT the Riders to win the Grey Cup so if you think they had more leverage than us, I'd strongly dispute that.

But not to us. And we were going to lose Hall, so it's all good. And since when did any team's fan base not downgrade a player they just traded? It's the second round pick, (10th overall.), that baffles me a little. If it was Hall for Nuefeld strait up, that would have been fair. But a 2nd round pick as well? I think we overpaid. That's my thought. Why the draft picks? Just who was the more desperate team? Us??? I doubt that as the GC game is in Sask in a few weeks & expectations were they'd win it. So they had to get to that game or the season for them would be a failure . Lots of pressure from their fanbase to succeed so I'm sure panic was setting in with Taman & Jim Hopson. So then, if Sask wanted Hall because they think they can win a Grey Cup then why are we giving up the higher pick? We already gave them the better player. Looks good right now because we got rid of an asset we were going to lose but come the CFL draft it won't.

Tim Burke comes out & says that the talk in social media is hurting Alex Hall & affecting his DL teammates which is one of the reasons the DL didn't play well yesterday. He said he doesn't know where these trade rumours start & who starts them. THEN... Alex Hall is traded this afternoon. Like am I the only one going, what???? with this team? Why would he say something like that just before the Bombers trade the guy? If a deal was in the process of going down & by that time it was, why wouldn't Burke just STFU? That is why I think this team is a clown act & why I no longer trust anything these guys coaching & managing the team say or do. I'm not pissed Hall got traded, just with the Keystone Cops mentality running the show.

I dunno what I want anymore with this team. Just feel everything we do is incompetent. Can't trust management to manage & can't trust coaches to coach. We're a clown act.

Source? Traded! Fail!

We're screwing with our draft picks. I don't like that.

So, we give up a 2nd round pick for Neufeld. We give them the better player in Hall & they give up a 4th round pick? What am I missing here? I'd have said fine just player for player but now we're messing with our draft picks? I dunno, maybe I'm off base here & we should be glad to get anything for Hall.

Sure it's easy to throw out a bunch of names. But Would you really want any of these guys? I'd rather stick with Walters over any of those washed up GM's. There are a few AGM's out there but still unproven when it comes to running a team on their own. So, you'd hire another guy trying to prove himself (Kyle Walters) over a guy (Tom Higgins) who has coached & managed two CFL teams & won a GC in Edmonton? That is why this team is so bad & has been bad for so long. We keep recycling thru the same inexperienced cheap hires to run the team. Walters has proven exactly, what??? All he should be is a caretaker GM until we hire someone else & that is it. The experienced guy we need here is Higgins. Not Tillman who is a pervert, Macciocia who is a bumbling fool, Obie & Rita who are too old. Glad you're not the President....One guy only? Not even a point in an interview in that case! Not smart! OFFS, what are you talking about??? Talk about twisting things to suit your agenda. I'd interview Walters because he's in the position now, Murphy in Calgary, Higgins. The guy in BC... But my list wouldn't have 15 names on it, no.

Now we blame losing on social media. Way ta go Timmy!!

Sure it's easy to throw out a bunch of names. But Would you really want any of these guys? I'd rather stick with Walters over any of those washed up GM's. There are a few AGM's out there but still unproven when it comes to running a team on their own. So, you'd hire another guy trying to prove himself (Kyle Walters) over a guy (Tom Higgins) who has coached & managed two CFL teams & won a GC in Edmonton? That is why this team is so bad & has been bad for so long. We keep recycling thru the same inexperienced cheap hires to run the team. Walters has proven exactly, what??? All he should be is a caretaker GM until we hire someone else & that is it. The experienced guy we need here is Higgins. Not Tillman who is a pervert, Macciocia who is a bumbling fool, Obie & Rita who are too old.

Well, just an aside on Etienne. If the Bombers don't protect him he's not someone I'd miss if Ottawa selected him. I doubt if he could play in Saskatchewan so would he leave to go there as a FA? Sixteen catches in 3 seasons for less than 300 yards. The guy is a bust.

He called out Creehan. Good for him. Just drive another nail into the coffin of that coaching staff & Burke. Besides, Burke routinely throws his players under the bus so if the shoe fits wear it.

And he will. Not sure why this is even a question of whether or not it happens. It won't happen during the season as that doesn't solve, help or change anything, but people can be sure he will be gone at the end of the season. Paul Wiecek tweet a week ago saying that the Bombers (Miller) think BUrke wasn't dealt a full deck to coach with. That there are problems with the team but he's not one of them. And Glen Suitor suggesting during the broadcast yesterday he may be brought back for the same reasons. That suggests to me that the Bombers (Miller) is leaking out info to the media suggesting the Bombers are considering NOT firing him. That's my take. I sure hope I'm wrong.

Burke has had a hand in everything as he is the frigging HC. If he's trying to pass on the "poor me" sob story it's all BS. Being a HC he's in on all personnel matters. He has to wear the horns for this nightmare season. He HAS to go!!

I'm just amazed that Burke may come back... The thought that the Bombers would kick their fans in the nuts when they're down by keeping Burke is really upsetting. No respect for the fanbase.