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If I had Max Hall, Jason Boltus and Justin Goltz as my Quarterbacks I wouldn't be taking shots at anyone. Hall may stick around for awhile. I'm okay with that. maybe he will become our starter, maybe a backup. I'm interested in seeing Levi Brown & what he can do.

Who replaces Muamba as the top NI on the team? Until you answer that your argument falls flat. That's what our scouts get paid the big bucks for... As you said, our top NI doesn't have to be Muamba. If he leaves they'll have to replace him anyway with an American, I'd guess. For 2014, the ratio would then be changed around to reflect Muamba's gone. How many starting Canadian MLBs are there in the CFL?

Sandro hasn't played badly. He can also punt.

Right now... we can lose Muamba. We can also replace him easier thaan it was to replace Brendan LaBatte. It won't be easy but it won't be that hard either. Most Canadian starters are on the OL on most teams, Bombers included. So the teams load up there. It would be foolish to play, say... 4 Americans on the OL & use Canadians elsewhere.

17, don't disagree with you on Canadian talent. They are getting better. The problem is the ratio is determined in the pre season. The team is built around that ratio & when it is changed, the effects ripple thru the team when it does. The Bombers weren't built for 3 Americans on the OL. In the Bombers case, they played Boatman & January before they were injured & now 2 new Americans have replaced them & perhaps maybe a third. So, now an extra American starter will have to sit if Burke plays 3 Americans on the OL.

17, how many Canadian offensive linemen come out of college??? There's a lot of them. My son plays qb in college. If I had another son I would be encouraging him to play along the OL if he had any kind of size. Best chance to play in the CFL is on the OL. And to get an NCAA scholarship. They play there because it's the best fit.

Yep, when a team fails especially as miserably as we've done it affects a lot of people. Scorched Earth.

Fight to keep him, yes. But again, if he doesn't want to be here well we need to move on. We have to focus on the future. Would I like him to be in our future, yes. If Muamba's agent holds the Bombers up for ranson or as leverage to get more money off another team then let him go. We can easily replace a Canadian MLB with an American without missing a beat. On the OL, losing a Canadian like Labatte hurts a lot more than if we lost Muamba as the OL is considered a Canadian position & MLB an American one. You build your Canadian talent from the OL out... This is outdated thinking. There are quality NIs at all positions. You can easily replace a Canadian at OL with an american just as much as you can at LB. You identify your best NIs and build your ratio around that it doesn't really matter what position they play. Yes, but it's not outdated thinking. How can it be outdated? It's reality. We have a ratio & there's no getting around it. CFL teams generally go with 7 Canadian starters on O & D. What we do is start our 7 best & go from there. Where is it written in stone one of our 7 best Canadian starters has to be at MLB? What Henoc Muamba brings to the table is the fact that since he can play MLB which is generally an American position so it frees up an American somewhere else. That is why he is so valuable. But not valuable enough to want the kind of $$$ he may be asking for. Now if the salary cap is raised significantly then if we can fit in his demands financially then yes try to sign him. As far as replacing Canadians on the OL with Americans it isn't easy. Again, it affects the ratio. For every extra American starting on the OL an American starter has to sit out. So, JJ for example may have to sit & Cauchy Muamba goes back in at safety. Maybe Terrence Edwards sits & is replaced with a Canadian receiver. Our secondary may lose an American starter. Having 3 Americans on the OL is a serious problem as it creates a domino effect with the entire roster. It's not good at all & Burke is stupid to do it. As an emergency for maybe one game, sure... But if he thinks that'll make us better in the long run then like I say the man is stupid. . wow did you miss the point... the point is that it doesn't matter what a traditional NI spot is anymore! it matters that your NIs can play and a MLB that can play is as valuable as an OL that can play and both can be replaced by an american just as easily as the other if you're looking at losing one. Where is it written in stone that you need 3 or 4 or 5 NIs on the o-line? It IS written in stone on most CFL teams. And has been now for 20 years. Why do you think that is? So more Americans can play skill positions like safety, corner, MLB & receiver. Back in the day, we had Canadians playing corner, OLB, wide receiver. That doesn't happen anymore. It's all about the ratio. If you put 3 Americans on the OL that was dedicated to 4 or 5 Canadia starters then at least one American has to come off somewhere else which can hurt a team. Now, if you start the season with 3 Ameriucans on the OL & you have 2 extra Canadians playing elsewhere then that is fine. But if the ratio isn't configured that way & clearly we aren't then that creates the problem. Most teams go with at least 4 Canadian starters & 1 American on the OL. But 3????

I don't hate Burke that much. I think he's a nice guy who is in way over his head. I actually feel sorry for him. He should be removed as HC asap.

Look on the bright side. We'll have a lot of flexibility in replacing most of these stooges next year. Most of these guys are like cheap auto parts. Just put em in & replace them out when they break.

Whiskey and cigarettes did the trick for Blink. Easy money. Faithless women. Dead eye whiskey for the pain. That'll work, too.

I watched Renaud as he came off the field after every punt. His body language said it all. Sometimes head down, firmly pulling off his chin strap to show anger & frustration. Other times looking directly at Dickenson with his arms in a "What am I supposed to do?" pose while shaking his head. Not a great night for the guy.

Morley's gotten away with a bad career... Morley was a stud coming out of college drafted by the Stamps in 2003. Then he went to the NFL, failed at Green bay, came back & was never the same player. It's liuke the NFL sucked half of the talent out of him when he was down there. That seems to happen to a lot of players when they try & don't make it in the NFL. They come back to the CFL & are nowhere near the players they were when they left.

Fight to keep him, yes. But again, if he doesn't want to be here well we need to move on. We have to focus on the future. Would I like him to be in our future, yes. If Muamba's agent holds the Bombers up for ranson or as leverage to get more money off another team then let him go. We can easily replace a Canadian MLB with an American without missing a beat. On the OL, losing a Canadian like Labatte hurts a lot more than if we lost Muamba as the OL is considered a Canadian position & MLB an American one. You build your Canadian talent from the OL out... This is outdated thinking. There are quality NIs at all positions. You can easily replace a Canadian at OL with an american just as much as you can at LB. You identify your best NIs and build your ratio around that it doesn't really matter what position they play. Yes, but it's not outdated thinking. How can it be outdated? It's reality. We have a ratio & there's no getting around it. CFL teams generally go with 7 Canadian starters on O & D. What we do is start our 7 best & go from there. Where is it written in stone one of our 7 best Canadian starters has to be at MLB? What Henoc Muamba brings to the table is the fact that since he can play MLB which is generally an American position so it frees up an American somewhere else. That is why he is so valuable. But not valuable enough to want the kind of $$$ he may be asking for. Now if the salary cap is raised significantly then if we can fit in his demands financially then yes try to sign him. As far as replacing Canadians on the OL with Americans it isn't easy. Again, it affects the ratio. For every extra American starting on the OL an American starter has to sit out. So, JJ for example may have to sit & Cauchy Muamba goes back in at safety. Maybe Terrence Edwards sits & is replaced with a Canadian receiver. Our secondary may lose an American starter. Having 3 Americans on the OL is a serious problem as it creates a domino effect with the entire roster. It's not good at all & Burke is stupid to do it. As an emergency for maybe one game, sure... But if he thinks that'll make us better in the long run then like I say the man is stupid. .

If your attempt is to fill MLB with a rookie american, I'd argue it would be tougher to find one of the variety that would be smart enough to adapt to the game as quickly as expected. Receivers on the other hand, can adjust and learn a lot quicker. It's easier than you think. Always has been easier. MLBs read the flow & go to the POA. The good ones have the range to drop into pass coverage. If Muamba goes, we'll fill his position. Just that he is a ratio breaker. Frees up an American somewhere else but he is replaceable. Besides, losing an American starter somewhere else doesn't really break my heart as truthfully we only have a hand full of starters who could go elsewhere & start on any CFL team..

Muamba is valuable because he's the best NI on the team not because he's the best LB in the league. You lose one of your best NIs you're hurting, especially when you already don't have the real high end NIs to start with.Hey don't shoot the messenger. I agree with you but if he wants to go & doesn't want to stay I won't lose any sleep over it because as I said, he can be replaced with an American linebacker.

Fight to keep him, yes. But again, if he doesn't want to be here well we need to move on. We have to focus on the future. Would I like him to be in our future, yes. If Muamba's agent holds the Bombers up for ranson or as leverage to get more money off another team then let him go. We can easily replace a Canadian MLB with an American without missing a beat. On the OL, losing a Canadian like Labatte hurts a lot more than if we lost Muamba as the OL is considered a Canadian position & MLB an American one. You build your Canadian talent from the OL out...

Renaud didn't punt well & we gave up a lot of yards on field position after his punts all game. He didn't even punt well with the wind. But Burke should just... not say anything. Everytime he does, I just roll my eyes.

I dunno, watching a losing team on the field, it's not like we can't find guys to replace them. The only player I would like back is Alex Hall. Henoc Muamba is not the best middle linebacker in the league. Chris Matthews is hurt. Receivers & linebackers can be easily replaced. On a losing team like the Bombers changing the MLB position to an American won't bust the defense like it would be if it was a championship contending team with other great players on the team. There isn't a domino effect as there would be on the Riders, Stamps, Lions or Argos. My feeling is, they want to go... especially Muamba? Buh bye.

Marquay McDaniel

How can a pro head coach not know all three parts of the game??? Mind boggling!

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I guess I jumped the gun. Sorry guys! Fifty lashes, kbf.

I think that's a good thing.

Burke is being influenced by his offensive coaches. He's a clueless puppet.They tell HIM what they want & he just does it. A HC that knows **** about offense??? Unbelievable. I thought HC's were well rounded & were supposed to know all 3 aspects of the game. Not Burke & we're stuck with him.