Mr. Perfect

Aside from the fact that Willy is in his first year as a starter and needs all the reps he can get, and has just shy of seven months to completely recover from whatever ailments he may currently be dealing with after Saturday....agreed completely...

The idiocy of this fan base sometimes...

Better chance he gets cut in the off-season when some bonus or another is due. Do you have a copy of his contract?

Yup.. Threats of violence always make your point more valid.. Smh. No - thats more frustration I get what he's saying. It can be infuriating when a 'fan' only see's what they want to see. Willy had all kinds of time to throw, he had receivers open. It was hilarious, on the telecast, Suitor tried to make a point that all the receivers were covered. The 'short' receiver was about 6 yards underneath the coverage, but of course Suits was on a roll so he said he was 'covered'. About 10 minutes of game time after that, Beck got the snap, turned, and fired a dart to Gore I believe it was, who was 'wide open' just like the bomber receiver was above, only the bomber defender was about 3 yards off him. It's amazing all the apologists there are for Drew 'freakin' Willy. At least more fans are finally starting to see what I've been seeing since mid-August. He hasn't nearly been good enough, and tonight was his worst start yet (but low an behold he finally threw another TD pass). But yeah, I get his frustration. Unless you know what the read progression is on the play that is called, it is impossible to say "he had receivers open." Probably the biggest fallacy in football from a fans point of view, when everyone goes "hey, that guy is open!" Ya, but it's the QB's 6th read, and the by the time the ball gets to him the DB or LB is going to completely fill in the "opening" most of the time. About as dumb as the people who yell "shoot" all the time on the powerplay at a hockey game. Perfectly explained. It's really not that difficult of a concept for people to grasp.

Doubt he gets invited to training camp, nevermind surviving it.

Maybe I'm not to lunch but considering the statue is at the Blue Bombers home stadium, I think it's rather safe to assume the very large majority of those who visit Investors Group Field may know a thing or two about the history of the organization and Bud Grant.

This thread...

Walters made a big mistake in letting Ford go. What an idiot...

And that's what it's all about - Progress. Whether the absent minded want to believe it or not, we made great strides this year considering where we were at this time last year. No reason to believe we won't do the same again next season.

The Oilers problems has to do with completely ignoring the blue line and goaltending as part of the rebuilding process. MacTavish, Lowe and Katz are all fools.

You didn't mention the Willy trade. Walters has done something that other GMs couldn't - get us a QB. That alone gives him an A in my books. Any of Collaros, Willy or Burris would have been a huge upgrade over last year. Walters couldn't make a bad choice at QB unless he decided he didn't want any of them. Sure he could have. Collaros is useless if kept inside the pocket, and Burris will be out of the league likely after his current contract ends and we'd be back to square one.

But if he has a great game and the Bombers win, does he start again next week, even if Willy is healthy? If Willy is healthy, no. Easy decision.

Anyone can have one good game at any given time. Just ask Ryan Dinwiddie. Brohm is a B- quarterback at best.

Not sure how accurate this is considering it's Friesen, but admittedly an interesting read if true.... BY PAUL FRIESEN, WINNIPEG SUN FIRST POSTED: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2014 09:19 PM CDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2014 09:46 PM CDT Running back Nic Grigsby hadn’t done anything significant in weeks. As impressed as I was with the CFL rookie’s elusiveness early in the season, he’d become easier to tackle than a Grade 2 math problem by the time he walked out on his team, Wednesday. Apparently, he also carries the attitude of a Grade 2 student. To recap, here’s what happened at school on Wednesday morning, as related by the principal. “I brought him into the office to explain to him what his role was going to be this week,” head coach Mike O’Shea said. “And he asked to be released.” Grigsby’s role, for the second straight week, was to study and work his tail off during the week, then sharpen pencils at the back of the class while everybody else got to go out and play on Saturday. Not pleasant, no. But it’s one of the realities of pro sport. You don’t perform, you don’t play. Of course, the way the Bombers have been performing, nobody should be playing when the Calgary Stampeders come to town, Saturday, other than maybe the entire practice roster and the ball boys. Maybe Grigsby feels he’s been unfairly singled out. I’m not sure Earl Campbell could gain 50 yards behind the O-line the Bombers are fielding these days. Grigsby’s replacement, Paris Cotton, managed just 31 in Monday’s slaughter in Edmonton, continuing the same old trend for the worst running team in the CFL. Yet, O’Shea wants to see Cotton again. So Grigsby took his league-leading nine touchdowns and went home, leaving only some rag-tag tweets rife with spelling errors in response. The Bombers won’t miss Grigsby that much on the field. Hell, they lost five in a row with him in the lineup, a streak that grew by one in Edmonton. They’ll miss him even less in the locker-room. I’m told the 25-year-old was a cancer, someone whose attitude has been a problem for a while. An outsider from the start of training camp whose personality didn’t fit with the team. Grigsby shot out of the blocks this season, with 100-plus yards rushing in his debut. But over the last several weeks his performance went into the tank — where it joined his attitude. Word out of the locker-room is Grigsby questioned the coaching and debated game plans. Good for him, you might say. But that’s a game for fans and media to play. I’m told Grigsby also took to blaming his teammates, particularly his offensive line, for his decline in production. While there may be more than a shred of truth in that, Grigsby’s inability to take any responsibility is what had teammates fed up with him, despite what many said publicly upon his release, Wednesday. A message he posted on Twitter earlier this week says it all: “It takes 11 other players for a RB to be successful... let me know if you can find one RB that can run 1 vs 12?” Grigsby (@Nic_Grigsby5) tweeted on Monday, a message he’s since deleted The guy had averaged just 40 yards per game over his last three. More often than not, the first player to hit him brought him down, one of the true tests of a running back, who’s supposed to make people miss. I don’t know that Grigsby quit on plays, but he certainly quit on his teammates, Wednesday. “The word quit can be a harsh word,” O’Shea said. “Blame, quit — all those words I tend to stay away from. But he was given an option and he chose to leave.” What does this say about the Bombers? The optics aren’t good: a team is outscored 37-0 in one of the worst halves of football in its history and its starting running back for the majority of the season walks out two days later. Put those two together and it spells Q-U-I-T. “I guarantee you this team hasn’t thrown in the towel,”Johnny Sears said. “One person’s situation or decision doesn’t reflect on the whole team. We expect to win Saturday... and (I’m) not saying it to be politically correct. “But you go in there and ask some guys right now: we plan on winning, because we have to.” Actually, that was last week’s lesson plan. School is all but over for this bunch. There’s only the math left to be done. And one other thing. We’ll find out if Nic Grigsby, the quitter, is alone. paul.friesen@sunmedia.ca Twitter: @friesensunmedia

Agreed completely. Ability to have a big game now and again, but underwhelming overall IMO.

Totally forgot I was following this guy, but this made me laugh... Chad Simpson ‏@Givechaddaball 2m2 minutes ago I'm nice and healthy to.

Alex Suber ‏@2ndSeven777 16m16 minutes ago Glad the homie got out of a Bad situation, ain't no quit in that man!

I saw that tweet. I recall a tweet he made earlier in the season saying there was no o-line he'd rather run behind than ours. Funny how things change.

Reed's defences are consistently beat deep and rarely get those crunch time stops when you need them. Highly overrated. His tenure here previously as well as other places have ALWAYS left lots to be desired.

Already did the "been there done that" with Marcel and Etch. There's a reason they don't hold jobs very long. Same for Lapo and Reed. It will be interesting what happens with Cortez. Same with Milanovich as well as there has been reports previously if the Braley situation isn't figured out by next year that he wouldn't return. Obvious connection with O'Shea there. Defensively I think it's time for some new blood. There's so many recycled names out there that don't stand out. Much like Steinhauer who began his coaching career as a DB's coach I'd be curious how current Riders DB's coach Barron Miles would turn out as a D-Coordinator. I'd prefer giving him a shot over someone like Reed who is an average DC at the best of times.

BLOGS RAISE A LITTLE HELL Judy: 3 X 4 = 12Tom Brodbeck - October 10th, 2014 It may come as no surprise to some, but it appears mayoral candidate Judy Wasylycia-Leis doesn’t know how to count. Caught in an embarrassing moment during Thursday’s mayoralty debate, Wasylycia-Leis said her competitor Gord Steeves was “fearmongering” because of his claims that the former NDP MP was planning to raise property taxes by 12%. Wasylycia-Leis has pledged to increase property taxes by 3% a year over the next four years. However, it appears she needs some work on her times tables. Wasylycia-Leis couldn’t seem to figure out that a 3% property each year over the next four years results in a 12% tax hike. “My good friend Gord here is doing a Sam Katz and he’s out there fearmongering,” said Wasylycia-Leis sitting next to Steeves and waiving her arms frantically. “I drove here tonight, there was this huge billboard suggesting Judy’s going to raise your taxes by 12%,” said Wasylycia-Leis. Um, yeah. That’s what you’re promising Judy. “It’s dishonest and it’s fearmongering and I’d like to know why he’s engaged in these kinds of tactics that only produce cynicism among our young people and the electorate,” she said. Oh, boy. Just when you thought you’d seen the Full Judy, she does this. Steeves couldn’t contain his laughter. But he did respond. “I’m not an actuarial but what I did is I took the 3% and I multiplied it by the four years and I came up with the 12%,” said Steeves, prompting howls of laughter from the candidates and the studio audience. “I could run it again on my calculator if you like.” An honest guffaw by Judy, or does she just have trouble with basic arithmetic? Because last time I checked, 3 times 4 is 12. “If it’s wrong I blame my campaign manager,” said Steeves. “But I’m pretty sure it’s right.” Actually, Wasylycia-Leis’ original tax pledge when she kicked off her campaign in the summer was to raise property taxes at the combined rate of inflation and population growth. The media panel Thursday reminded her that under that calculation, a property tax increase would be about 3.5%, or 14% over four years. “Wait a second, is it three and half?” said Steeves to more laughter. “I gotta change my billboards.” The truth is, we don’t know how high taxes will go under Judy because she doesn’t even know that 3 times 4 is 12. And she doesn’t appear to care. Her solution to city hall’s financial troubles is to jack up property taxes every year. She’s not interested in finding savings within city hall, including from its bloated bureaucracy. She just wants to dig deeper into taxpayers’ pockets. She’s a New Democrat and that’s what NDPers believe in. That’s why when she was a cabinet minister in the 1980s her government jacked up the PST to 7%. And it’s why her government on Broadway increased that tax again to 8% last year. I just wish Judy could work on her math a bit.

Pity anybody forced to run behind the likes of Dan Gyetvai, Moe Elewonibi (in that stage of his career anyway), Mudge from 2004 on, and Benidict Ibisi. Charlie deserves badges of honour for doing that.

At this stage of the season, you're not bringing in a fresh rookie anywhere and throwing him right into the lineup. That's not how football works in week 16. Of course you can bring players in for a look, but you're not going to say they are better than X player at this point in time. But to be satisfied with the status quo? Competition is always a good thing. It's never bad. NFL cuts were a month ago & yet we stood pat.So we brought in a couple of receivers. No intl OL. No intl linebackers, running backs or DL?? Maybe one or two guys could have helped us immediately. If McManus is as good a scout as he is supposed to be then we may have found us a a keeper or two. We'll never know though as we didn't do anything. How can a team that went 3-15 last year & is on a 5 or 6 game losing streak now just blow off its fans by saying that nothing can be done? And MOS saying that his job is to build & not tear down? Just execute & play better? How naive does he think the Bomber fanbase is? Really? No his job & the same with Walters is to win. I know this team has a lot of holes & to make the playoffs is a herculean task. All the more reason to bring in players to fill these holes. Players to push the ones we have to play better. Or to push the deadwood out the door. And their not satisfied with the status quo, you can bet your bottom dollar on that. There's only so much you can do realistically over the course of a regular season. The bulk of the movement will be made in the offseason. There was lots of turnover last offseason, and you can bet there will be lots again in the upcoming offseason as well considering we are hosting the Grey Cup next year. If you asked people in May if they would be happy with a 6 or 7 win season, the intelligent majority would have said yes considering we won only 3 times last year. Starting off 5-1 was more of a curse than a good thing because it unfairly raised the expectations of the fan base. Make no mistake, the team is committed to building a winner, but it takes time. Considering where this team has come from in less than a year, there is no reason to believe that the powers that be will fail in making that happen IMO.

At this stage of the season, you're not bringing in a fresh rookie anywhere and throwing him right into the lineup. That's not how football works in week 16. Of course you can bring players in for a look, but you're not going to say they are better than X player at this point in time.