Atomic

When the **** hits the fan and 50% of people have a gun and 50% of people don't..... what side would you rather be on?

We may have a future starter but his name ain't Hellebuyck, it's Comrie. And he's not ready. So we have some room to sign a starter for some money and term. Sure, Helle can backup (so could any number of other goalies). Best goalie coach in the world isn't fixing that kid. He is a career backup.

I think it's become clear that Hellebuyck is a bum. Priority 1 this offseason is finding a starting goalie.

No way.... front row centre in the upper bowl "overhang" are the best

I'm fine with our starting OL and having Neufeld, Couture, and Foketi as depth is actually quite good. Now add in Zachary Intzandt and a first round pick and the OL is looking far better than I can remember in the last decade.... maybe more. Maybe not enough room to keep Neufeld around though.

People called Kyle Connor a bust? He wasn't ready for the NHL but that doesn't make him a bust. I guess I don't listen to the radio much any more but I haven't heard anyone call him a bust.

Miz absolutely killed it in the John Cena parody.

It's a pretty common thought applied to many "defensive defenceman" prospects. Most of what they do is based on their "reads" and reads are a lot easier when the opposition is playing a coherent system. The more "pond hockey" the other team is playing, the harder it is for a smart defenceman to do his job because it's difficult to read the next move of someone making it up as they go along.

Don't really understand how they can afford Olafioye but not Foucault. Olafioye isn't exactly on a cheap contract. Foucault looking for 165k+ ????

Cheerfully withdrawn. Yes they do but it would be odd to pick 3 goalies who are currently under contract on one-way deals. I suspect they will try to get a big money guy with some term (Varlamov?), a young NHL up-and-comer (Grubauer?) , and a young guy or two who can start in the AHL. Maybe Hellebuyck can fit in there but I would bet after this year that he wouldn't be a prime target for Vegas especially with guys like Armia, Dano, Lowry, and Myers on the table. If we could acquire Fleury for example, we could keep him as the starter and Helle as the backup and safely protect Fleury while not losing Hellebuyck. Such is my thought right now.

"not coachable" "undisciplined" Gimme those players all day. Just need the right coach to get through to them.

If I can hear myself think, it's not loud enough.

Right! Exactly. It's people that just don't see the big picture. Just "they get money, I don't get money, WTF!"

But are you willing to give Darling the big deal? 4 mil/year for 5 years? Or similar? What's the confidence level?

Yeah for sure, I just didn't think it was allowed.

I'm not down on Winnipeg, I love Winnipeg. I think you underestimate the negative reputation this city has, however. "Winnipeg could sign Darling for a slight overpayment".... based on what, exactly? Seems like wishful thinking to me. Condon might end up being the guy we go for, and I think he'd be a good target. Budaj.... that's not happening.

Some would rather see a shitty downtown that generates less taxes than see the wealthy receive tax rebates, even when it means a better downtown for all. I don't understand the mindset.

Seems weird to sign a draft pick to an ATO. I didn't realize that was an option.

It was just an example. Basically, Pens trade an asset to keep Murray from Vegas and we trade the equivalent asset to the Pens to acquire Fleury. However it was your assertion that the Jets aren't willing to pay for Darling that really wound my crank. If you think that DOLLARS are the primary reason why UFA's avoid Winnipeg, then I don't think you've been paying attention.......

Charities should run on donations, not government dollars. Forced charity is bullshit.

Holy **** are you being intentionally stupid? Obviously I don't mean Vegas would take both, I mean Winnipeg gets to keep both, i.e. they don't lose either one to Vegas.

Oh did Chevy say that's what they're doing?

I know that, obviously. The question was how Winnipeg could acquire Fleury and avoid losing both he and Hellebuyck.

Lesnar is not allowed to speak anymore