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Foster is going to be a free agent. I have no problem with giving him extended play time to see if it is worth re-signing him. Now we know it's not worth it and can avoid a big blunder.

I don't follow, on the Elliott comment. And yes obviously a new HC will want his own guy, and the wavering fan base is hungry for a new QB as well. What are you trying to say?

...and was out of shape and didn't start training in earnest until mid May. Hold on to your hats folks, very few people have seen what he's capable of when he's in shape. And when you do, you won't even remember how to spell collaros - or care. Yes the O-line needs work, but Burke, if he stays, needs to be a leader without question. He is the most, "Maybe..., if..., we might possibly..., I think..., I hope..., we really should..., it was weird stuff... milquetoast of a coach I've ever heard. There is light at the end of this tunnel and it's not an oncoming train. Sounds exciting but I just don't know if he's ever going to get a chance to show it. Time may be running out. How is time running out? There's only 2 games left and we may have a new coach and GM next year and we will almost certainly be bringing in a QB. If Max Hall wants to make an impact, he has to do it now.

...and was out of shape and didn't start training in earnest until mid May. Hold on to your hats folks, very few people have seen what he's capable of when he's in shape. And when you do, you won't even remember how to spell collaros - or care. Yes the O-line needs work, but Burke, if he stays, needs to be a leader without question. He is the most, "Maybe..., if..., we might possibly..., I think..., I hope..., we really should..., it was weird stuff... milquetoast of a coach I've ever heard. There is light at the end of this tunnel and it's not an oncoming train. Sounds exciting but I just don't know if he's ever going to get a chance to show it. Time may be running out.

Right now I would take Hall as our starter if we couldn't get Collaros or Burris. He would be my third choice out of the guys who are popularly believed to be available. I would rather stick with him than turn to DeMarco or Tate. Tate's a good QB but I just can't stomach the injury risks.

Lol I was just following up on road griller's comment. You really do have to chill out man!

To be the man, you gotta beat the man

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Higgins would have been a good choice several years ago. I don't know whether he is still interested in the job or has the connections he once had. Still, he has done it before and is still involved with the league so I'm sure we could do a lot worse.

Seems some people don't understand quite how bad things are right now for the Bombers. It's not a matter of just replacing the GM and president. The whole organization is a mess. When every department is losing employees on a regular basis and you hear former members of the grounds crew, of all people, claiming they had to get out of the "toxic environment"... you know things are bad. People talk, and players talk especially. The vibe around the CFL is "Stay out of Winnipeg", and that's not speculation. It's going to take time to fix everything, and having two rookie Acting executives in charge of everything this off-season is not going to help. They need to hire a strong, experienced head man to run everything, like a Hufnagel, Buono, or Austin, or it is going to continue to be an absolute circus.

yeah well Burris coming into this mess would just pout and be a total jackwang in the dressing room, blaming everyone else for the team's failures. No thanks. Or he would come in and win some games for us, you know maybe we'd have a passer go over 3500 yards for the first time in 5 years. Bringing in Burris gives us a guy who WILL win games and also a perfect timeframe to develop a young guy because Burris will be gone in a couple years. Win-win-win. 7 habits of highly effective football teams.

I'd still go with Burris, I think. What's the problem with this team? Too young and inexperienced. So we're going to solve that with.... more youth and inexperience? Bring in Burris as a stop-gap for a couple years while we bring a young guy along. Bringing Collaros into this mess right now is just setting him up to fail.

Hall's okay. He's still got a lot to prove and doesn't really have much time to do it. If he wants to stick around, he's going to have to play very well in the final 3 games.

And the raw sex appeal of Tom Brady

The thing I like about Burris is that he has had success under several different systems over a period of many years. Collaros looks great, but he has only played in one system on a pretty good team with some great coaching. Could be a dramatic fall-off if Collaros comes here, which is less likely with Burris.

Burris sympathizer. No dumb ass qbs please. Funny that after all these years of poor QBing, we can still be too picky to accept the guy with the most passing yards in the league, an MOP award, a Grey Cup, a Grey Cup MVP, and a winning record

Who is the "horse's mouth"? DeMarco? If he's in our Top 3 then bring back Goltz because DeMarco isn't that good at all. . Would you rate Goltz higher than DeMarco? I wouldn't. When you think about it, DeMarco makes sense as a third option. The team is reluctant to take a risk on Tate (injuries), and there is little interest in bringing back Kevin Glenn (debate amongst yourselves on that one). Bo Levi Mitchell is apparently not on the market in any way, shape, or form. Really, that leaves DeMarco and Drew Willy as realistic options, and obviously someone thinks DeMarco has a higher ceiling.

Easy to say that, but when you look around the league it's just not the case. Hamilton has an above average OL, are Brian Simmons and Marc Dile dominant? Not so sure. Toronto has Tony Washington, he's good but not dominant. BC has a couple big names, but has either carried their weight this year? Not to the point of being called dominant. Stanley Bryant in Calgary and Xavier Fulton in Saskatchewan are possibly the best examples of great import tackles, but that's still just 2 tackles out of 10-15 starting import T's in the league. It's easy to SAY it, but not so easy to actually accomplish it.

I truly don't understand all the love Murphy gets on here. What has he done to prove to you that he'll be a successful GM in the league? Trust me, Hufnagel is a control freak and nothing happens unless he gives his blessing. So is the success in Calgary Hufs doing or Murphy's. Because Hufnagel controls every aspect of the football operations of the club. He doesn't allow any of his coaches do radio or TV interviews. Everything goes thru him. That's an interesting question from an evaluation point of view. What can you look at when determining if a person will be a good GM? 1. Past experience - This is, of course, the easiest thing to look at and also the most surefire way to know what you're getting. Have they done the job before, and did they do it well? 2. AGM experience - Failing to have actual experience, you have to move on to their body of work in other areas, as an assistant or director of player personnel. I think this is the most alluring part about John Murphy. He brought in pretty good talent in his short time here and he has always brought in solid talent for Calgary. That doesn't mean he can manage a team, but bringing in quality players is a big part of the puzzle. 3. League associations - How in tune is he with the league? How long has he been around? Has he worked in a successful organization? You talk about all the great things Hufnagel does for the Stamps, well, can we infer that Murphy has learned something from that? He certainly has connections to good coaches like Dave Dickenson and Rick Campbell... could we use that to our advantage? 4. References - This may be a little superficial because it's rare that a football executive will get trashed publicly, but sometimes we can learn from what other people say about them. In Murphy's case, I've never heard a bad word spoken about him, even from his time working with Mike Kelly. This could be a plus. I think there's a lot to like about Murphy, but it's true he is still an unknown. He is the kind of guy you would need to surround with experienced people so he doesn't get overwhelmed, but if we are looking at hiring a GM neophyte, I think we could do a lot worse than him.

I can't tell you how glad I am that he's not, to be honest

Who is the "horse's mouth"? Upper mgmt, can't say the name unfortunately. Very legit source though.

Lots of rookies but the core of the offence has tons of experience... i.e. Burris, Fantuz, Hage, Dyakowski, O'Neill, Wojt, Diedrick, Grant.

Isn't that the whole point of these discussion boards...to discuss/speculate? Tough crowd in here. I like how he says it like our speculation is going to be more valid once we know who the GM is. It's still just speculation either way.

Damn I usually don't miss that stuff. Bad season making me rusty I guess.

The Bombers' top 3 QB targets this off-season will be: 1. Collaros 2. Burris 3. DeMarco That's straight from the horse's mouth this weekend.