Zontar

It's not a politicians responsibility, as a public servant, especially if he has high aspirations, to propose remedies to things he believes aren't being addressed? Seriously? Just standing back and criticizing to collect points for later attacks is leadership and public service to you ?

List all those times then if you think it's true.

The perfect time for a Trump alternative to show their own leadership mettle and come up with a plan.

If pointing out corruption and hypocrisy on the left is translated by you as "embracing"and "defending" Trump I can't help that .It's not my problem.

Very soon the same people condemning the virus strategy are going to have to come up with better plans of their own. Just simply criticizing for political points will be empty rhetoric. They points they think they are accumulating for an election will be meaningless.

I only expect that if one one wants to be taken seriously about corruption , incompetence and political dirty tricks they had better broaden their scope if not you're just playing a partisan gotcha game that's safe and popular.

You're a leftist by your words and by your own identification as such. Not my problem you're uncomfortable being called out for that. How happy are you about the potential for financial misery this could mean for ordinary working people ? Any misery is worth it if Trump or any ideological enemy gets the blame, right ?

I have plenty of "issues" with Trump and said so. Problem is you want a die hard conservative stereotype to mock with leftist ideology cliches you stockpile and frustrated I don't quite't fit the bill but you try anyway.

Is there any crisis, emergency , tragedy you won't exploit to try and own Trump ? Seriously, is a pandemic a gotcha game for you ? Pitiful. If I go into the Canadian thread what will I find from you on Trudeau's virus strategy ?

Irony being I don't consume Fox media but you certainly do as you boast of knowing their playbook. I avoid most corporate media like poison because it misinforms and promotes narratives for special interests. But do go on with the point and splutter personal attacks and keep watching the news..

Are you in the Canadian Politics thread critiquing Trudeau's handling of this thing? If not this is just a partisan game for you and you have no leg to stand on trying to turn this into a morality test.

How many people did your 2 Iraq wars kill, Dave ?

Don't see much of the hijacking. Pretty much same old same old GOP stuff. Senate supports him because he's still viable and hasnt affected change to the point Senate would turn on him Trump has nibbled away at a few corners of cherished neo con stuff. Not sure one can say the party is essentially any different than before, imo.

Don't think so. He's been a flop on illegal immigration, worker visa abuse, closing fat cat tax loopholes, foreign policy all barely distinguishable from the average neo con. I have said as much.

"Defended" Trump on very few fronts. The garbage Russian treason smear and impeachment fiasco. Trump has been a failure on many things. Have no problem pointing them out.

You can easily endure my moralizing on leftists as any of the numerous moral lecturers on cons, Nazis, fascists etc that roll off my back. I'm no different than anyone who posts in this thread. It's not my problem my view isnt the popular, prevailing one in here.

Brutal equivocation. It would be like me accusing you of simply regurgitating buzzfeed or mother Jones or politico or Rachel or...

Swing and a miss. Never quoted or defended Fox. Ever. Have said corporate media is inherently unreliable and biased numerous times. Cookie cutter, one size fits all attacks on who you think is a "conservative" don't work here.

You dont take everything from anti Trump media at face value ? please. I don't need to read anti Trump media since it's all reproduced here. Difference being I don't get to read the corrections when stories are proven bogus which , occasionally, the same media has to confess to.

I don't overlook anything. Said it a hundred times American politics is corrupt. . I point out the hypocrisy of progressives who pretend the corruption was invented in 2016 and the good guys are still clean.

Right. Biden didn't threaten Ukrainian officials if Hunter deal didn't go through. No quid pro quo. All above board. Shouldn't have to give you links you would scoff at anyway. You should know what's going on..

Said it a hundred times. Two sides of the same coin. At least I don't pretend.

So what if Hunters a crook and Joe knows and lied about it. ? We will have our revenge like 2016. Yep, these are the "good guys" alright. So principled and righteous.

Kamala endorses Biden Even after he she she subtley accused him of racism over his previous stance on bussing. Now praises his civil rights record. Nothing about Gabbard a woman of colour. They all talk about more women and more diversity but when it comes down to the crunch its I have gotta get on the winning team. No matter what. These "good guys" truly have no shame

In another classic Romney flip flop he's now agreed on the House investigation into Biden Jr and Ukraine. Gonna take a wild guess Romney loses his hero status among the left after being so "principled" in the Impeachment.