do or die

At this point, the Rider media really need to start a forensic on O'Day.....and get some straight answers: Does he have access to "the database" Does he handle things internally? Does he have the keys to the dispenser? Does he know where Taman's Rambler is parked? Will he be able to use up the Brylcreem?

Well, that's one way to get Chamblin to "go". Or run him out of town....

Aging, overpaid vets....reminds me of a certain Bomber season. ..so for that matter, does 0-6.. Another season, featured a leak from BOD about Mack's firing Yet another, featured injury to QB's Riders really putting it together, this season.....

Marve with one arm and one leg would still be better than Brohm. At the risk of being called a Brohm fanboi... I realllllly somehow doubt it. What he really meant was..... Marve with no arm and two legs would still be better than Brohm.....

Was stunned, that the Blue could give up a TD on the opponent's first drive.....cannot remember the last 37 times, that has happened.....

We stll gave up 4 sacks to the lowest sack team in the league, last night. We also will see if we have a D package to deal with ZC, who has owned us, so far this year.

That's kind of odd considering the Riders sold around 25k season tickets that year that so many bomber fans were there isn't it? You guys can laugh at how bad we are all you want but even this year there are 26700 season tickets sold so the myth that any team will ever outnumber our fans in our stadium is simply that, This is Migs for sure, right? People had to turn to something, with the impending skyrocking of manure prices........

J. Adams looked like the deal, even during X-season. Thought Collins and Gibson added something, last night. Also looked like Hall was sneaking in some man coverages, after showing zone.

Like the ones that were telling me how Tino Sunset was an upgrade on Willy......

The dark clouds parted....and the sun shone through.... ....perhaps some sort of omen? Perhaps not...... ...as BC drove 95 yds in about 8 minutes, for opening TD... Bombers started of with the usual dumb penalties..... Lions returned the favor with 3 in a row, on next series... Hurry-up O and play action gave the Blue D some early problems... Willy runs for 30 yards!....then hangs in the pocket, drawing PI call.... ...which sets up Veltung's first TD catch.... Harris, as usual...BC workhorse...is there any back more versatile? Willy converts some more 2nd and longs....with yet, more running... ...finishing up with 70 yds running the ball.... ...while making a statement.... to his teammates.... 10 - 7 BC at the half....but didn't feel like the Bombers were down.... Blue proceeded to prove it.... outscoring Lions 16-3 in 2nd half.... Willy hits D. Adams with perfect seam throw... ...as Adams beats 2 DB's for for 60 catch and run TD.. ...his 4 -125 .... continues his coming out party... How many officials does it take to make a call, these days? About 6. Strange fake punt by Bombers .......on a 3rd and 20.... Still some dumb penalties on S-teams ... Some erratic directional punting from Lirim, tonight..... Hall and the D, made some adjustments....Lions had 3 points in 2nd half.... ...forcing Lulay into 3 big picks..... Bass made a ton of plays at OLB... Hurl came out of the doghouse.... with a pick and a bunch of tackles..... J. Adams had a great diving pick..... and a huge hit on Harris.... 2 monster plays late.... from Demond Washington.... ....a knockdown on 2nd down from the Bomber 10 yd line.... ...and a game clinching INT, with under 2 minutes to go.... Cam Marshall carried the mail, down the stretch.... ...and is making the case for more playing time at RB.... Drew Willy is the leader of this bunch..... See? the Bombers can win at home... See? the Bombers can win on a short week... See? DOD can gin on a long weekend....

Tough spot.....Taman and perhaps CC can play the injury card for survival.....and the Riders can get a dose of what a BT "long range plan" looks like.....

Tommy Pharr....

Statistics don't tell the full story. Sometimes you use other advanced evaluation tools..... like the right and left eyeball. I "see", so far that.....we don't move the ball, when Brohm is in, too many turnovers, and the other players on O look somewhat uninspired. Also "see....." that Marve actually moves the ball, somewhat....although not in the classic fashion, his style provides a change up.... and Mave does appear to give our other players a bit of a lift.. This "trend" started last year, and continued through the x-season. That said....Mavre is a walking impro act, at this point, runs at the drop of a hat, and rarely sets his feet to make a throw. This is why he is a "future" guy, requiring grooming. Brohm, on the other hand, is a 7 year pro. Also factoring in his age......he has to be a "now" guy.....or there is no real point to keeping him around. Up till "now".....Brohm has not gotten it done. If this changes, more power to him, and the coaching staff, who clearly believe in him.... If not, the tipping point should come sooner, than later

Maybe the rational posters to a degree yes.. But there is ample reasons listed as to why this is.. I'll reinerate again tho.. -marve hurt -brohm is more experienced -brohm is more of a pocket passer These are the 3 that stand out to me as why brohm is ahead of marve at this point.. - when Marve was not hurt....Marve was outperforming Brohm. - Brohm has way more experience, as a pro (7yrs)....which is why he should be held to a higher standard, at this particular point. - more of a pocket passer - does not mean much if the passes fall incomplete or into the hands of the opposition. No agenda here.....if Brohm had to go in on Thurs......I would be rooting for him to do well, and help our team win. After all, he wears the Blue and Gold. It's only that he has been singularly unimpressive, so far - and the idea of further grooming this guy, given age/experience....does not make a lot of sense. As far as Marve needing a bit more grooming/experience...and avoiding Tee Martin Syndrome or something....I would not totally disagree.... People (in general) seem to think that if you are boosting one guy..... by extension...you are automatically denigrating the other..or vice versa... Things are generally more complicated than that.....

Kevin Mason....

Its that the coaching staff appears to have both anointed and sustained Brohm as the #2...despite him accomplishing next to nothing, as a Bomber......that has some of our teeth on edge. Not some pseudo conspiracy....

I take O'Shea's word at face value.....but a little less shutpan, and a bit more clarity, would be useful, in some instances.....

All of this time I thought you were a qualified expert with all the stuff you come up with for "Odds and Sods" and now I find out it was just the gin lubricating your keyboard. That's as good a reason as any to endorse gin, I guess. Just to clarify, I am a unqualified expert....

Also have no idea what it is like to coach and run a CFL offense, or for that matter, a CFL defense. Don't know what it is like to play professional QB, or coach a pro team. Don't even know all intricacies of CFL special teams. As far as being a GM, well, lets not go there. So, in the final analysis..I got nothing... except clean gin and unwashed opinions ....on a Blue Bomber football forum.,..and plan to continue to exercise both.... when and how it strikes me, as appropriate. ps....still think that MB's offense is somewhat noncommittal, featureless, and beige......

There is a balance between developing QBs....and sticking with ones that don't work. Pretty close to a tip point, here....

There were those of us who lobbied long and hard for MB to be replaced in the offseason. Guilty as charged...... MB has been...and is....the absolute defination of mediocre....

Wild is not a natural MLB.....but all-star quality on the outside.....

No suprise.....Greaves has stood out in at least 3 games this year....in a bad way. The suprise is finding out that Neufeld may be a actual player on the field for this team, and not an urban myth......

So if Brohm puts up a FG and throws less than 3 picks....he wraps up the #2 job, for the rest of the year?

Excuse-O-Rama spinning faster than the eye can see.......