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Hey I'm a huge fan of Brown too. My comment wasn't about Brown - it was about Collaros and the narrative that he isn't a big game QB. He has been hamstrung in the big game the last 2 years. It's a big decision to move on from a guy who has gotten us to 4 straight Grey Cups - despite the fact that we have lost the last two in dramatic fashion.

I'm going to make some excuses for the average play of Collaros in the Grey Cup. 1. We have been a very balanced offensive team...especially in the two years that we had Andrew Harris here. We were run heavy. We basically employ receivers that are run blockers first. 2. We know we can run and running in the playoffs is the way to go 3. 2022 Collaros was playing hurt 4. 2023 our entire receiving core minus Lawler and Woli were hurt It just goes to show you that it isn't the best team that wins the Grey Cup...it's the hottest/healthiest. Healthy Collaros and Schoen has been our bread and butter for passing stats the last two years. We haven't had that in both our losses. That said, has Collaros been stellar, even given the excuses? I'd say no. His underthrows in this last Grey Cup were brutal. But are we making a mountain out of a mole hill? I think so.

Doesn't matter, have Evan Holm

I was thinking about the same play. Agree 110 percent. We had very few tendency breaker plays

We were somewhat fortunate that we had a core group of guys that wanted to stick together for 4 years. We lost the last 2 Grey Cups which is shitty. I honestly think the coaching staff has gotten a bit too unimaginative and overconfident, thinking that if we just show up and do our thing then we win. And they were almost right. But it has cost us this time around. We need to find that edge again.

Folks on here that were questioning the roster management have to feel a bit vindicated after this one (after the sadness/anger goes away). We stuck with the same ol same ol and didn't find and develop enough guys. Bighill playing tonight was a mistake. Schoen playing tonight was a result of not developing someone to step in and be the guy. We could have dressed Rose, we could have dressed a d lineman. Hell, without Jackson we could have dressed 2 d linemen. We really relied on Jeffcoat and Willie getting home and they were well schemed against. Defense was okay but not good enough. Offensively we were playing with 3 injured receivers and a QB who for some reason can't seem to make the big throws in the big game. Im beyond frustrated.

I had a good laugh just now when they showed a promo for the Als with a song called "ain't doing jack"

I wish someone in our media would have asked why.

AFAIK You are still a Grey Cup champion even if you aren't engraved on the cup. Being engraved seems like pretty small potatos when looking at the main prize

In 2019 I watched the game in a nervous and quieter optimism. Got loud when good things happened (obviously) and then in the second half I didn't celebrate until there was almost no time on the clock. Actually, I think I was just in disbelief, like it wasn't real. I can see this year going much the same way.

I just think they've all but given up getting a straight answer from O'Shea. As Mike Kelly would say.. It's all handled internally. Osh just has a better way of saying it.

It really does seem that his roots are here and he may not want to move his family away right now. Would take some special circumstances

As someone who has a movember mustache and got season tickets in 2005 that was a roller coaster for me. (though I was a Bomber fan well before that year)

Kelly had so many wide open receivers this year. I wonder how well he will do next year when they can't afford quite as good a team around him. Do the Argos have the same culture that allows them to keep a lot of vets around? Im guessing no. But we shall see

A segment of their beat reporters think that because this is Kelly's first year as starter and that he hasnt played football for a while should contribute to the MOP nod. They are clueless.

Does BC want to go even more toward never running the ball? I think Harris' roll with the Argos is just about perfect for him. Sounds like he is done though

I have to imagine that Fajardo is going to be throwing a lot of screens and swing passes against us. I think Parker and Houston are up to the challenge.

Right? On many plays he had some time to throw the ball. Speaks to the DBs and the Bombers controlled rush. You knew the rush was going to get there, but they were very disciplined

That's good, we will need these guys to continue to play at this level next week. Do it for Biggie

It was the defense. They are locked in.

Thanks for the backup 😁. Argo fans/media are saying some super ridiculous things these days.

Agreed. Some say Kelly is still standing behind his O-line since last game. He has had days back there. Props to the Argos O-line. No clue if Mustard was the best on an individual level.

I would agree. 16-2 is impressive no matter which way you cut it. Argos managed to win some games where they could have easily let overconfidence get in the way. But only playing the other top teams once each and only one of those in a meaningful game makes for a questionable strength of schedule. You have to think that there would be another loss or two on the season if they played Winnipeg and BC a few more times.

Maybe Betts gets the award for the ability to speak French.

At this point we either keep Dru Brown or we get a 1st round pick to trade his negotiation rights. I'd much rather keep him but the alternative is a good consolation. There's going to be multiple teams wanting to go after him.