MOBomberFan

People in glass houses should change with the lights off

Last banjo bowl we scored over 50 points and the crowd was on their feet all day. It's doable, we've done it before. I'll take whatever kind of win we can get however. Just send these Riders and their fans home crying into their pilsner

Who's calling you a liar? You keep saying 6game and we believe you... but what about the AR? Thats what we are asking about. Point blank yes or no questions: 1. can a team activate a player on their PR to prevent them from being poached? (So far, the concensus is yes and previously posted news articles back this up) Yes or no? 2. can a player refuse to be promoted from the PR to the AR, and as a result facilitate the poaching? Even though the team holding his rights wanted to activate him? (Sounds fishy) Yes or no? 3. can a player end their own PR contract and sign as a FA elsewhere in the same season? Yes or no? That would clear up a lot for me. I dont care about 6game 1game or demotions to the PR... I'm asking very specifically about promoting from the PR to the AR I cant be more clear

This makes more sense to me tbh. And once suspended they can't play for anyone else until their rights expire or they get dealt. This is all more in line with what I would expect. Between the 'gentleman's agreement' among GMs, and the fact that teams holding a player's rights hold all the leverage, nobody gets poached without a team basically letting it happen. In other words, if we want to keep Haba, we can do it easily by activating him to the AR. Thanks yall for your explanations even if they continue to conflict hahaha

I missed the game to go watch some comedy instead (I figured this game would be a bad joke hyoooo). I see Powell put up some numbers we would have killed for not that long ago, at least in the second half. Was it more Powell doing well or just the RedBlacks being the RedBlacks?

Thanks man. Sounds like PRs are the take-a-penny leave-a-penny dish of the CFL. I figured if a team held a players rights and they held out, the that player isn't playing for anyone til their rights get dealt, like any normal contract. Didnt realize PR was so different. I'm surprised more poaching doesn't happen already in that case. As you said, most guys especially Americans are here to play

But can they outright refuse a promotion to the AR of the team that holds their rights? Don't teams have the leverage?

That's because he didn't go on the PR, he was a free agent when he signed in OTT CFL legend Sam Montgomery? Played zero regular season snaps for EDM before landing on our PR a the conclusion of the 2017 season. Was released less than a month later. Was then brought back in January 2018 and was a final cut out of training camp that year. He did not get back on our practice roster and went of to play in the Arena League, hasn;t been in the CFL since.

Just trying to understand here, could a player actually refuse to be promoted from the PR to the active roster and just go to another team? Regardless of what the team holding his contract says about it? That I don't get in this scenario. Seems to me the team with the contract has 100% of the leverage

What about the active roster? If he has already agreed to go on our PR now, I have a hard time imagining him refusing to get back on the active roster if we did so to prevent his poaching

What he's saying is the Bombers could simply place Haba on the AR to prevent the poaching from happening. See here, back in 2018 this was all discussed. Unless something has changed between now and then. I bolded the important part. https://3downnation.com/2018/09/21/top-five-practice-squad-players-worth-poaching/ Though such moves are rare, CFL teams are permitted to claim players off opposing practice rosters. Three provisions must be met in order for such a transaction to take place. Firstly, the team making the claim must have an active roster spot available for the player in question. A player can only be transferred from a practice roster to an active roster — not merely to another practice roster. Secondly, the team that owns the player’s rights can retain them by moving the player to the active roster, one-game injured reserve or six-game injured reserve. This can prove problematic for teams, however, as roster space is limited. Thirdly, the player in question must consent to the transfer. Going to a new team is always in the player’s best financial interest — active roster spots pay considerably more than practice roster spots — but may not be desirable for other reasons. And yes, if Haba is as good as we all believe, I am sure O’Shea would protect him from being poached.

Assuming he actually accepted a potential offer from another team, couldn't we just pull him off the PR onto the active roster to scuttle the deal? I'm pretty sure the team with rights to the player gets a chance to prevent the poach by playing them

Kenny Lawler

I tried the 'Undertaker' from Underdogs: Rosemary buttered beef patty, jalapeño jack cheese, sundried tomato aioli, pickled red onion, classic steak frites Yep, that was quality beef and a taste that's a little out of the ordinary without overcomplicating or outright forgetting what a burger is. The pickled red onion brought something different and steak frites added some crunchy texture. It still doesn't top their 'Randy Savage', winner of Le Burger Week in 2018 and current regular menu item.

Birds of a **** feather flock together Randy

...we would have done something you don't recall seeing happen at a professional football game ever in all the years you've watched football? Nice. Act like a bunch of college kids. Got it. They will surely listen to us then. Less to do with age, more to do with era. Surely a pro football team can get past the macho BS of the past millenia and settle this like professionals; on the field, between whistles. Make them pay with their playoff cheques. I will give you this much @BigBlue, if we were up 2 or 3 scores and the game was well in hand, I'd have loved to see someone take that guy down a notch. Thankfully these Bombers are wiser than you or I obviously are.

Just going with the hot hand. That's two wins in a row for the big fella and he did beat the best team in the league (us), they just hope and pray he can do it again infront of a fired up and angry crowd. I have my doubts, I'm sure 30,000+ of us will have something to say about it this weekend

That was #67, Kolankowski. Kola threw Oliveira aside at first and Oliveira once again got infront of him, likely helping prevent a retaliation penalty. #53, Neufeld, was running to the refs and pointing his fingers. Watch the replay at 7:49 and tell me I'm wrong. https://www.cfl.ca/2023/09/04/recap-saskatchewan-32-winnipeg-30/

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I'd love for you to provide a single example of a football team retaliating against a player that emphasizes your point. Name one instance of a tough guy football team getting their star player messed with, followed by the team retaliating on the field, followed by 'earned respect' or their players otherwise no longer being messed with. Can you do that? I sincerely doubt it. Maybe you'll have to keep referring to an entirely different sport, and a player that retired a quarter-century ago.

Channel the anger and frustration into beating the man in front of you and making them regret crossing the line. This is sport, not gang turf, we settle things on the scoreboard. Maybe we should be more like BC and meet them in the parking lot? Maybe we could be like TOR and go fight in the stands? MOS syndrome? You mean, least penalized team in the league year in year out? Thats not weakness, that's net yardage, that's winning a game of inches. Discipline.

The league can't wait on injuries to happen before taking action. We can't have headbutting going on after the whistle, that's for lame soccer

Exactly how many yards in retaliation penalties before you're acting like a real man? It's called discipline, something our team prides itself on. Best revenge is laying 50 points on them this weekend

It was a 10 yard penalty and come on, they just went up over 2 scores in the dying minutes of the LDC off a passing play made by a running back, that's worth celebrating. I thought it was fun. Next time, maybe they should just pretend they have a hammer and avoid the penalty.