Bigblue204

1. Where did I say it wasn't? 2. When have I mentioned the color of someone's skin? Maybe it's the timeline that isn't getting through to you. I'm not talking about during a sentencing process/court case etc. I'm talking about after all of that. The criminal has been caught, the criminal has been sentenced....then as a society/charity/non profit/police force/social programs etc etc. You can examine what lead to the crime. Example: I worked in a neighborhood that had an incident happen. Incident was, after school a group of kids picked on another kid, this continued on for weeks...leading up to the one kid eventually being locked in a shed, and that shed was then set on fire. (thankfully the kid inside was able to get out before they were seriously hurt.) The kids responsible for doing that, we held responsible and punished. BUT AFTER THE INCIDENT...the community got together and said enough was enough...these things can't happen here. HOW CAN WE AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE....it was determined that kids in that area/community had very little options when it came to after school activities...which in turn led them to hanging around and finding things to do which often led to disruptive behavior or worse. So the community along with a non profit organization started an after school program for kids in that community. Violence and vandalism dropped dramatically in the community. It didn't stop all together, but it got much better. AND because we (as a society) know, that people who have been hurt, are more likely to hurt others...counseling was provided to the bullied child to help them get past it, without hurting someone else (Not that it was 100% determined that the bullied kid would hurt someone else, but we know that often, hurt people, hurt people....so we intervened just incase.). "Well if the bully's had proper parents, they should have stepped in, avoiding the entire situation." This is correct, and in an ideal world what would happen. Unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world and there are plenty of reasons why those specific kids didn't have adequate supervision during those hours. Some of those reasons were and continue to be related to societal failings of the past...which I can again give examples of, but this is already getting to be a very long post...about a subject I said was no longer worth discussing.........but here I am.

I've been saying it for years. TSN does the CFL no favours, and often hurts the product more then it helps.

It's not about taking their background into account when considering punishment...ITS NOT ABOUT EXCUSES. ITS NOT ABOUT PUNISHMENT. ITS ABOUT PREVENTION. No one thinks they shouldn't be punished, they should be. It's understanding how they got to a point where they murder, and how we can put things in place/fix things/change things etc etc so the next person who is in a similar situation won't make that choice. In terms of imprisonment, our society whether you like it or not very rarely sends someone to a true life in prison. Which means basically everyone who goes to prison, is getting out at some point. As of today, a good portion of those people will be sent back for committing a crime. But...we know from other examples, that it doesn't HAVE to be that way. Society can welcome people back into regular life with a better jail system, and better supports once they leave jail. It won't be 100% successful...but we can do better. To recap: It's not about creating excuses for those who murder people. It's about understanding what happened in their life so that maybe...just maybe...we (society/systems/family structure/whatever the ****) can pre-emptively help people who may be dealing with something similar, so they don't end up killing people. Yes, not everyone who struggles or has a **** upbringing/life kills someone...that doesn't mean we should just stop trying to improve things. I really don't know how else to explain this.

It's been explained multiple times that no one is excusing the choice. He's just being Tburg at this point. There's no point in continuing the conversation.

99 riders 1 everyone else.

Jesus this might be the most pathetic way to look anything that I've seen in a very long time. "I can't imagine a possible solution to any problems, so there's no use in trying!" Yeah @17to85 explain to me on this internet forum how you would "fix" these immense problems facing our society....I'll wait...lol honestly what do you want him to say here? I'm not even going to start arguing. But I 100% think people who see the world through this type of lens are useless.

I dont know who this guy is or anything more then the tweet...but it could be interesting Oh my bad....I read his tweet like he already had a meeting lol.

Maybe for some younger players. But Franklin/Mitchell are long in the tooth. Are these more of "big name" players we were told have been considering retirement? What will the league do without who ever that WR is and a career backup qb? I do love that this kinda screws with the riders though.

I'm not sure I'd call it "good". It's typical 3rdown put something out for the sake of putting something out. Someone notify me when there's actual news about this situation cause as of right now Naylor/TSN/3rdown etc is just putting out the same story via different words/headlines. It actually addresses that in the article. Saying it seems to be the hype of NFL that is drawing people and not the style of football....claiming the increase in NFL viewership in Canada doesn't correlate with an equal increase in american college ball. But yeah. "A significant number of people want 3 down football" is equally as true.

I like how you're talking about rehabilitation like the Canadian/American systems have tried it. The system is strictly punishment not rehabilitation. Which is why the recidivism rates are so high. Which in Canada anyway, cost tax payers a tremendous about of $$. Not only in costs of running a jail (which I believe is around 100k per prisoner per year) but also whatever policing/repair/court costs etc that come along with them. Yes it would cost the government a lot of $$ but what else is knew. It's costing us alot of money the way we operate now.

let me explain. my comment was in reference to the person(s) murdered. Not the suspect.

Is there not a dead body?

wha? How did you get that from what I posted? I'm on the same page as you. My only exception was for the .1% of people who are essentially psychopaths...which I then said But even then, I'm not convinced there isn't a solution that would help them re-integrate.

When I first saw the dates on instagram I thought it was for this year. I was like why would they even bother. I'm glad they aren't just out right cancelling the tour like TOOL did. I'll gladly wait another year if it means I get to see them live.

"Take high risk kids away from their parents? I don't think so. Incarcerate folks who may commit murder? Nope. Single them out for 'special' treatment? In this political climate?" it's cute that you don't think this is happening in todays society. And honestly I don't think your opinion is that unpopular. The problem is, in real life....those tactics don't work worth a damn. Not in our society anyway. The main reason for understanding the background of someone who murders, is so society at large can see where there may be gaps that can be filled my regulators, or social services or community groups etc etc etc. I get that TV shows and shitty lawyers make it seem like it's to excuse an individuals behavior. But the people on the ground level benefit from knowing so they can help those who may be going through something similar, or so they can develop resources to do that. What we know 100% - Jails don't work for 99.99% of criminals. Hurt people, hurt people. Early intervention (which can look like many different things) with those who have been hurt can be a huge determining factor in how their stories unfold Some people are just ****** and need to be removed from society. But even then, I'm not convinced there isn't a solution that would help them re-integrate.

yeah understanding/empathizing with how someone came to a point in their life where an act like murder takes place has nothing to do with excusing their behavior. We need to know these things so we can work towards actually addressing the problems that lead to crimes being committed. Not only that, but there is undeniable evidence that our current punishment system does **** all to actually reform people. Soooo maybe doing something different like taking into consideration how someone ended up committing a crime is the place to start?

with all due respect. I understand it all too well. Doesn't change that it's a waste.

That TPR going up is not what we need.

What a waste of a life.

The only thing he's got going for him is his daily update on cases in MB. Other then that it's painfully obvious he has an axe to grind.

Yeah it's easy to look back and say he will never be ready. But show me a NFL rookie QB who can go up against the leagues best Defence and be successful...not to mention the numerous calls that went against him and then add on the lack of play calls that suite his style. I'm not saying Streveler is some miracle man at QB, but to write him off is immature at this point. The one thing they could have done to actually make their team better and they still ****** it up! lol. serves them right. The leadership of that franchise is a joke.

I believe that is Stegals 1st touchdown. Also...ugh...those jerseys. Just horrible. But man seeing the old barn really brings back some memories.

And I definitely celebrated that this weekend!!! Ya ya!!!..... Just kidding I'm married with kids lolol 😔

And this is just the perfect article to put out there right after your colleague calls you out for insufficient reporting. This says....exactly what everyone already knew. Congrats on wasting everyones time Naylor. BREAKING NEWS!!! CFL IN FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS. CHANGES NEED TO HAPPEN OR IT WON'T SURVIVE!! There...TSN hire me.

I see Gable retired. Another victim of Covid19 likely. Good for him on his career though. I remember seeing a lot of talk online about "more" players going this route and was worried for a bit. But I honestly haven't seen anyone retire who is a really big loss. (yet).