Bigblue204

I'll talk about what I want where I want thanks. This was part of that discussion, the tweet I shared was an example of why some people don't like the name Eskimos. Someone else compared it to SIN and you said that was a great point. I disagreed and said why.

That's not even how we elect our leaders. Do you think Calgary should ask 50% of canadians where their new football stadium is built? Or what the design should look like? I'm guessing you want 50% of america to vote on the new NHL team name in Seattle?

all of them

wow...maybe there will be a season after all.

Get off the fox news bro. Shits bad for you. You are right about some of the BLM leaders being trained Marxists though. Odd thing about the BLM movement...its not a machine with one leader. There are many branches with many beliefs. It's not a simple "Their bad!" like some media like to make it out to be. It's also not "lets do exactly what they say" like other media outlets claim. Shits complicated.

I honestly don't know. Those aren't required/forced on people (Well there could be an argument that they are I actually) and there's certainly a case that they should not be a thing either. There is a DRASTIC difference in the two scenarios though.

I honestly can't remember what started the process but it didn't just start. I posted an article from 2018 that went over Edmonton consulting people about the name change. People do want it to change, other people don't.

it's a horrible comparison. This was not something assigned to EVERYONE. It was only one race of people...who were then called something other then what they wanted to be called. And if either of you bothered to actually read what the twitter posts after say. Many kids were no longer called by name...but the number assigned to them...after they were kidnapped and forced to give up their cultural identity. If you don't see a problem with that, we can't be friends.

That's like saying how were the tattoo Jewish people got during the holocaust any different then a SIN...these kids were taken from their home, given numbers that they were identified with..their names were no longer used. They were now 3-1402.

read Jordans statement again. And then show everyone where he says he is against changing the name.

yes

For the most part, I don't care what people call me. I wasn't the one complaining about using stupid I also didn't complain about people use snowflake or SJW. I simply pointed out how other terms were being used. lol. So your freedom of speech is ok. But mine isn't? I mean if you don't like the term stupid, don't use it. Even though I didn't actually call you stupid. I don't think you're a stupid person, I do think your opinion on this subject is unintelligent. I also don't expect everyone to agree with me and I don't think I said everyone should...or that I expect everyone to.

came across this just now on the twitter machine

That's fair. Though I don't see how stupid is any different then snowflake or SWJ when they're being used the way they are. And I will never call the defense of racism anything other then unintelligent. To say only some people find this racist, so I'm not going to stop doing it...is an unintelligent thing to say and do.

Yes! This, it's up to the people who the name refers to decide how they feel about it. And yes, Edmonton has gone through this process, though I don't know how big of a "survey" they took before. https://www.iheartradio.ca/am800/news/eskimos-consider-name-change-1.3943312 Tha'ts from 2018. I believe the results were, no consensus. So we aren't changing. Which is one take...but no consensus still means some people had an issue with it. So how many is enough before change happens? As for the slippery slope. I find it ironic that the people who use the terms snowflake, SWJ etc etc can't get past sports teams changing their name. Like it's some kind of law of nature that will impact society to a large degree. If the bombers decided to change their name, I'd give exactly zero fucks. Assuming they didn't change it to the riders. This year should be showing everyone that sports are nice, but they are also on the very bottom of what's important in society in the grand scheme of things. Change happens. Societies evolve, and what was once deemed acceptable becomes unacceptable. This is not unique to our time, or our society. I had a work colleague who was a practicing Wiccan. I had the utmost respect for this person well before I knew her religious beliefs. We were discussing religions one day hers came up and I refereed to the hers as a pagan religion. I didn't do it out of disrespect, it's just what I thought it was called. She corrected me, told me why it was an insult to her and her people and I didn't/don't call it that anymore. Nor will I say to random people that they are pagans, because I don't know who will be and who won't be insulted by that term. So for me, it was 1 person being insulted by a term that was enough for me to stop using it. That number may be different for other people. But when people are saying they're insulted by a name...the conversation should take place as to why and how it can be rectified.

The bolded part is again an incredibly stupid take. "Only some people think this is racist!" lol. No need to change I guess. I haven't stated anywhere that there is a consensus in the inuit community about the name. There likely never will be. And to ask for a consensus is asinine. It's just not how anything is done for the most part. "A portion of a group of people think that the word....is now racist. how is that enough for a forced change?" You can't see how stupid that comment is? Yes I took words out, I did so to remove your attempt at justifying racism. I'm not sure how what you shared from wikipedia is any more in favour of keeping the name then what I shared...name was given as an insult...some people are ok with it...some people aren't...Yup that's the story. In short, some people are totally fine with Eskimo. Some people are not. Yup that pretty much sums up what we're talking about.

And it has history behind it.

I'd invite you to walk up to random people and use those names. It's easy for us to get confirmation from those who know us, I have friends who feel the same way booch. But to then extrapolate that to an entire population is borderline insane. So then the question becomes how many people need to be/say their insulted before its appropriate for you to change? That's a personal question for everyone.

Yes it was. Calgary didnt call them the eskimos out of respect. They did so as an insult. In the same way I call the riders criders. Or inbreds. Or sister cousins. Or stupid. Or bad at football. Or ugly. Or bad at math. Or incapable of holding intelligent conversations. Etc etc etc.

FTFY

That is a legit question. The only ones who can answer are the people it's referencing. A lot of them see to think it is. The Edmonton Inuit wouldn't be "wrong" per say, but it would be a dumb team name as far as I'm concerned. So would the Winnipeg Polish. Or the Toronto Italians. IF Irish people start saying they feel like the "fighting Irish" name is racist, then the conversation should take place. It's not up to other people to decide what is and what isn't insulting to someone else. Any younger sibling will know, that just because your older brother said his punches didn't hurt you, didn't mean he was right. The Braves and The Chiefs could potentially get away with keeping the names, but everything else, logo/chants/etc etc all very much show heavy indigenous influences. We'd be willingly ignorant to say they aren't referencing those things with the names. As for the people not finding their rec teams insulting..again if they are from that ancestry and are fine with calling themselves that, cool...When's the last time an indigenous person played for any of the teams mentioned? Never mind a vast majority of the team being composed of them? And yes we should go on and on to reactify the mistakes of the past. That is literally the only thing to do. Snowflake is often thrown around by people who are also complaining (I'm not saying you are booch) about other people complaining. So who is the real snowflake here? People who are saying a racist name/caricature is being used, or those who are unwilling to change a name of a sports team? Seems like priorities might be a bit backwards. To add to what Noeller was saying...why would anyone WANT their teams name to be about a certain group of people? Especially when said group has told them it's insulting?

This is an incredibly stupid take. the "group of people" are Inuits, the people the name references and they (maybe not all, but at least a portion) decided it was an insulting/degrading name. How is that not enough? But because a name has been used for a long time, there's no need to change it? That's literally not how anything works...in any industry...ever. Change happens. both willingly and by force. some quick digging shows that A) Eskimos were also know as the Esquimaux (which was the original spelling of Eskimo) and also the Elks. It was also "given to them" as a literal insult. "Likewise Calgary's responded with insults about Edmonton's northern latitude and frigid weather, calling the city's residents "Esquimaux" (an archaic spelling of "Eskimos", referring to the indigenous people of the Canadian Arctic, properly called Inuit)." So "perfectly fine" by whose standard?

I do get a bit of a chuckle from all these american players trying to hold fire to Ambrose's feet. Like they're good. Maybe even HOF good...but there are people waiting to take their place...they arent irreplaceable. So go ahead banks, Daniels, Colins...you're only hurting your own career. Keep in mind I do fully understand why some arent going to play, and I'm not holding anything against them, I just think it's funny the way their doing it.

Hub city of WPG is the only place it makes sense. I still don't think the CFL happens, if they do theyll still government $$. Its gonna be an interesting few weeks.

And that is why Jones was cut. He likely violated the teams social media policy. They did actually have a fairlyarge conversation about it from what I remember. I personally think their name should change, but to say they havent talked about doing it, is false.