Logan007

Loved that trailer.

Their first course correction should be to replace Snyder and get better writers.

You shut your hole! Supergirl is awesome. And she's hot.

I looked it up. They said CBS is "deciding at a later date" whether to renew or not.

It's not the complex story that I have a problem with, it's the fact that Snyder is trying to tell it, which ends up coming across as stupid and filled with plot holes. Such as the points your making. Not to mention that he's rushing everything so that he can get Darkseid into the mix right away. Your point is exactly why he should have introduced J'onn J'onzz into the mix. He would have been perfect to have been having these visions. Or, if they do explain it as him sending images to Batman, I can accept that as well. I'm so saddened by how they're doing these movies. They could have been done so much better. I feel robbed.

No, two different universes. Ezra Miller is the movie Flash.

They haven't decided about Supergirl yet. And yes, Flash crossed over into Supergirl. Haven't seen the episode yet though. Aired last night.

Yeah. Like if you take IM's post credit scene where Nick Fury states "I'd like to talk to you about the Avengers Initiative". And people who don't know would be like "what's the Avengers?" and a person who knew would just say "super hero team" and they'd be like, "oh ok cool". With this one it's like "AAAHHH LOIS IS THE KEY. YOU WERE RIGHT NOT TO TRUST HIM. I CAME AT THE WRONG TIME". And regular people be like "WTF was that all about" and people in the know would say "Well...that was Flash...I think, he can time travel back in time if he runs really really fast...even though that looked more like a dream...and I'm not sure what they mean by Lois is the key or who not to trust..." and they'd be like, "....uh....ok....". It just seems really really odd that Snyder has had to come out and publicly explain his movie to the masses so that they would get it. I wish the dude would stop with the complex stories when he doesn't even do stories very well to begin with. Stick to the simple stuff man, then build from there. Stop trying to mash 5 or 6 different story lines into one movie.

The thing isn't really the fact that Lex allowed them to get the information. The question we have to ask is, why didn't Bruce ask the question "who leaves their data cables hanging outside the server room for anyone to connect into. If Bruce is so smart he should have seen through this. Bruce is supposed to be a detective, not a moron.

Here's another huge plot hole. First of all...who goes all the way to the basement to look for the "washroom" and who the hell buys that excuse? And THEN turns away and leaves the person still near the precious server room UNATTENDED!?!? And what kind of server room security is that where the door is just left wide open for anyone to go into? Second, as a computer guy that looks after a server room...WHO THE HELL LEAVES CABLES CONNECTING TO THEIR SERVER'S DANGLING OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM!??! If they're trying to make Lex look like a complete idiot...they succeeded.

I said that it was the Flash a few posts up. COME ON MAN!!! GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!

Well, the fact that the Robin suit had no color to it probably didn't help the general audience either. It looked like it was bronzed or something. But good review. Those are basically the same issues I had with the movie as well.

I'm wondering if it has legs to carry it or if it drops big time next weekend.

$420m. $170m Domestic.

Hmm...I think it was the same as any other movie. I didn't really notice. Maybe it was a bit louder? I do remember thinking my hearing was a little off when I walked out of it.

The whole thing is just WB's trying to play catchup like you said. They're trying to get Darkseid out before Marvel releases Thanos so that people don't go "hey, isn't that the same bad guy?". It's just a really sad attempt. And the greater sadness comes from all the loser just lapping it up. It's like the people who all run out to see Transformers. People pay money cause they wanna see SPLOSIONS!!! For me it was so tiring to watch this movie. It's was such a slow startup just to finally get to the final battles. I think when he says Lois is the key, he means that she's the only one that can bring Superman back from the dark side, or whatever is going to happen to him. I don't know, I don't even like to think about the whole thing.

I'm pretty sure it was the Flash time traveling and giving Batman a message. He said: “Listen to me now,” the man yells. “It’s Lois! Lois Lane! She’s the key!” Then, seconds later, amid screams, “You’re right about him! You’ve always been right about him! Fear him!” No idea what that means, but he was dressed in the same dessert gear that Batman was dressed in in his nightmare sequence. So I'm guessing it's regarding Darkseid. Not sure who "he" is that they need to fear. Maybe it's Superman. Maybe the dream sequence where Superman is this evil guy is something that's going to come true. Maybe red kryptonite turns him bad and makes him Darkseid's partner. I don't know. The whole thing is cool but at the same time feels weird and haphazard.

Or at least get someone to co-direct with him that knows how to tell a story.

Well, there mom's had the same name. That makes them instant BFF's, duh. Well the building crushing his employees and that VP that he was obviously close to. I think the kid losing her mom pushed him over. Kind of brought him back to losing his parents. I think he's still pissed about, I'm guessing, Joker killing one of his Robin sidekicks as well and was just taking it out on Supe's.

That's hilarious. There was no end credit scene was there? I heard there wasn't so I left.

I gave it a 6/10. I enjoyed it, at least, a bit more then Man of Steel. The one thing they do right in this movie is Batman. They run through his backstory nice and quick, and then get into why he's angry, what his motivation is. And Affleck does a good job. Unfortunately, they don't do the same for Superman or Lex. Lex is just some goofy nutcase who's inherently evil for some reason that they never really focus on. They kind of hint that he's Lex Jr. and that his dad is his adoptive dad or something. But they never really explain why he's bad. What his motivation is for why he's bad? Which is fine, but you're left wanting. And he's not Lex. And he gets his stupid head shaved at the end. So he's not bald...he's just got his head shaved. Uggh...I just...uggh. I hate Eisenberg as an actor so this doesn't help his case for me, but he just acts the same always with that stupid squeaky voice of his. I'd have preferred a slightly older more menacing Lex like the Justice League cartoon. I still think Bryan Cranston would have been the perfect Lex Luthor. Jeremy Irons was a great Alfred. I would have liked to see more of him. I found Henry Cavill's performance fine, if a little dry. He just seemed...boring. There was no emotion in his portrayal. Gal was good, but she didn't have a lot of speaking parts so I can't really judge her in this movie, although her action scenes were great. Doomsday...really? DOOMSDAY!!?!? We're only on the second movie and you haul in DOOMSDAY!?!?! I mean, come on man. You have millions of bad guys you could choose from and this is what you choose to do? On top of it, you do the Death of Superman? IT'S THE SECOND DAMN MOVIE SNYDER!?!? Let's learn to love Superman first before you go and kill him off. Let's see him in a few movies first. Don't just throw him in like that. The battle with Doomsday is supposed to be a GREAT BATTLE between him and Superman, and they relegated it to a quick 10 minutes. And then at the end...OOOOH, he's alive...floating stuff before he takes off. That plot line alone pissed me off. They took one of the greatest story lines and just threw it away into a quick 10 minutes. This felt very much like X-Men 3 all over again where you have this great Phoenix story line that you could probably have drawn out over a couple of movies, first as her being a good Phoenix, then the next movie she moves to the Dark Phoenix. But nope...they ruined that story line, just like Snyder just ruined the Death of Superman one. The other part that really annoyed me was that he's going off of Frank Miller's Dark Knight story, which is basically a graphic novel. It's not even part of the real Batman comics. So basically he threw away 50 years of Batman comics for some stupid graphic novel about an older Batman that kills. Batman doesn't kill. That's one of the things he abides by. After the golden age (where he did kill) they changed his character to be a non killer. That was one thing Batman always stuck to. Oh you'll see things in graphic novels or one off comics that aren't really "Batman canon" but his main story line in the comics is, he doesn't kill. Superman has killed in his comics, but Batman doesn't. This Batman was something else, and that part I didn't like. But I can overlook that if he turns a new leaf in the upcoming movies. Cause he was fairly pissed off at Superman for killing most of the employees in his building. And about the dream sequences, which were great. The general audience is not going to get that they're teasing Darkseid. They needed to be more in your face like Marvel was with Thanos. And apparently Lex knows something about Darkseid because he made mention of certain things that are associated with Darkseid, including the ding ding ding at the end which is something a boom tube makes when it opens a portal. This movie could have been cut down to 2 hours. Although I think there were pieces missing which will be in the R rated cut. I have a feeling they're going to show the Joker killing Robin or something. Anyway, even though it sounds like I hated it, I didn't. I did like it, just not that much. I think they're making these characters a little too dark without barely any humor at all. You need to have some like, Winter Soldier type of humor in it just so you don't feel like the world is a terrible place once you're done watching the movie. And bring your characters around, make them more like their comic book counterpart. That's it for now.

Yup, 2 hours is what I thought it should be cut down to as well. I hope someone takes over from Snyder soon, but I don't think so.

Nothing much in the spoiler thread yet. I gave it a 6/10. It just missed so many marks. Affleck is good, Irons is good, Gal is good (in what little you see) the action scenes are good. Eisenberg is NOT any Lex Luthor I've seen before. I didn't like him. Editing was junk, the plots were empty for certain aspects of the film. There are parts of the movie that, if you're not a comic book, you just won't get. And those parts are setting up Justice League, so to me it would have been better if they made it more understandable. I don't know, it was just ok for me, but that's just my opinion. I'm sure there are others that will have differing opinions, but that's mine. I'd say go see it, you'll love the action scenes, but the movie does drag at times.

Just starting the thread. I'm not going to post anything in it just yet as I don't want anyone to see anything spoilery just yet. But once I've digested everything better, I'll start posting. This is your only warning, FYI. From this post on out it's spoilerific talk. So just to start off. I thought it was better then Man of Steel. It could have been cut down by about half an hour. The editing wasn't done that well. The end kind of annoyed me...well...a certain part of the end. I thought it was too soon for this, but they did it anyway. I still think they should have introduced the characters first and then brought on the Justice League. It feels like they're trying to rush everything to have Justice League compete with Infinity War. It's kind of stupid on DC's part. But whatever. Anyway, tell us what you thought. As I said, from this point on out is spoilers, so be warned.

Hey, you could just claim that you bought it to bring home, not to eat in the theater. Be like "dude I'm not going to eat this awesome popcorn in the theater and waste it like that".