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And that’s Jennings. As good as he looked last week in that comeback win, he looks absolutely Pu*trid this week. And Posey. He’s better than that isn’t he? Well, isn’t he?

How can they call that a catch on that interception? Rubber ball...it was rubbing the turf. That call, and the non-call on Lynch for offensive pass interference doesn’t look good on this officiating crew..and review.

How could that be a TD for Calgary? He was heartily tagged at the 7 yard line..

Who would have thought Duron Carter would have 8 receptions for 111 yards and it isn’t in 1 game..but spread over 10 games? Toronto actually has a good chance for a win in the coin flip today!

CFL Game #69 Team Notes – Winnipeg at Edmonton:  Season series on the line: With Edmonton and Winnipeg one win apart to Week #15, this game will be vital in playoff positioning. Edmonton leads 1-0 and can take the series with another victory. A Blue Bombers' win evens it at 1-1 and would force that to the outcome of the November 3rd contest again at Commonwealth Stadium. A win for Edmonton would give them a series victory over Winnipeg for the 5th time in the last 6 years.  Edmonton playoff positioning: The Eskimos have fallen from a 6-3 start and 2nd place to 7-6 one game above .500 and in 3rd behind Saskatchewan with 3 losses in their last 4 games. They are even in the loss column with BC with 6 defeats and again the season series will go down to game #3 in the set (Oct 19th at BC).  Reilly at 300+ yards, #10 all-time+: The Eskimos are 5-2 this season when Mike Reilly throws for 300+ yards and 2-4 when he does not. His 7 games of 300+ move him up to 40 for his career which ranks him #10 all-time despite being just #28 in total games started with 91.  Winnipeg penalties: The Bombers had a CFL season-low one penalty last week and including declined calls, only two flags. The last time that Winnipeg drew two penalties or less was on Oct 19/07, 11 years ago. They had 2 for 19 yards that day.  5-1 vs 2-5 (+3): The Eskimos have 3 more home than road victories, their largest disparity since 2012 (5-4 vs 2-7, +3). Their largest ever difference between home and away wins is +5 and came on two occasions - 2004 (7-2 vs 2-7) & 1988 (8-1 vs 3-6).  Duke Williams 1800-yard pace / 19.1 average: Averaging exactly 100.0 yards per game, Williams is just shy of the Edmonton single-season receiving record held by Brian Kelly. Kelly caught 104 passes for 1,812 yards in 1983 in a 16-game season. Williams' 19.1 yard average per catch is the 2nd-highest by any CFL player since 2001 (Min. 60 receptions)  Throwing deep comparison: Though a complicated function of different offensive approaches and receiver corps, here’s a to-head look at passing of 20+ yards or more downfield in 2018 for Mike Reilly and Matt Nichols. More than 1 in 5 of Reilly's throws in 2018 have been deeper than 20+ yards (only Bo Levi Mitchell has had more of his throws be 20+ (25%, 95 of 387 atts). Mike Reilly attempts of 20+ yards passing - 99 of 462 throws. Completed 43. 43.3% Matt Nichols attempts 20+ yards passing - 47 of 285. Completed 16. 34%  Winnipeg wire-to-wire / Trailing after Q3: Of the 6 Bombers' wins this year, 4 have been wire-to-wire without trailing at any time. They have led 10 times in 13 games after the 1st Quarter and are 7-3 in those games. They have yet to win a game in 2018 when they have trailed going into the 4th Quarter. 👁‍🗨 YIKES! - Since 2015 the Bombers are just 3-24 in the 27 times they have trailed after 45:00.  Weston Dressler just needs 4 more games with a reception to move ahead of Jamel Richardson to 125 games consecutive.  Justin Medlock: Has taken over the CFL lead in punts inside the 10-yd line with 11. He had 7 in all of 2017 and 8 in 2016. At 10.6 points per career game, he ranks #2 behind only Mark McLoughlin (10.7 per gm) and his 1,316 career points is now #18 all-time.  Kenbrell Thompkins: Had 94 yards and for the first time was the Bombers' leading receiver in a game.  Turnover Record at 28-3: Winnipeg is 6-0 when making fewer Turnovers and 0-7 when making even or more in 2018. Since 2016,  Winnipeg is 28-3 when forcing more T/Os.

CFL-wide Highlights Heading Into Week #16:  OT Winning FGs: Last week BC's Ty Long made a 39-yard field goal to defeat Hamilton 35-32 in Overtime. In CFL history, 92 games have been won in OT since the 1986 rule change for regular season play - and of those 92, just 38 have been won with a field goal.  Going to OT on a 2-Point Convert: In the 106 regular season Overtime games played since 1986 (92 wins, 14 ties), only THREE of them have ever been sent into OT by a game-tying 2-Point Convert, and just one on the very final play of regulation: 0.00 seconds J.Jennings 3-yard pass to B.Burnham  Better Field Position wins 2 out of 3 times: Of the 57 games played in 2018, only 19 have been won by teams with poorer average starting Field Position; 38 have been won by the club with better starting points for their drives or 67% of the time.  Making more "big plays": In 2018, the team that has made even or more long-gainer, "big plays" has won the game 43 times out of 57 games. Only 14 times in 57 games has a team making fewer "big plays" won the game (just 24% of the time).  Lewis Ward 37 FGs in a row: Ward has not missed a FG attempt since the season opener and is now 40-for-41 97% with a streak of 37 makes in a row, the 2nd-longest streak ever made & longest within a single season. His 37 in a row is 2 back of Rene Paredes' 39 straight across 2012-13. Ward's 97.6% mark is ahead of the CFL record set by Paredes at 94.7% in 2013 (54-of-57).  One more thing ...: After reaching 29 in a row in 2013, Rene Paredes had one blocked on July 20, 2013 by Montreal's John Bowman. By the rules of the day however (and that had been in place since 1967), no FG attempt was charged to Calgary since the ball did not cross the line of scrimmage. Paredes went on to extend his streak to 39 straight. 👁‍🗨 I distinctly remember this game and how his streak was allowed to continue. I called bullshirt then. I’m glad they changed it, but Paredes still gets his streak. The CFL changed the rule to start 2014 whereby any FG attempt that is blocked results in an 0-for-1 since a legal FG attempt was clearly attempted and was NOT successful. This rule will be re-visited in the 2018 off-season by our Rules Committee however with the proposal being that only the TEAM be charged with an attempt and NOT the kicker himself in these cases. This will permit the CFL to consider if Ty Long's current streak would still be deemed as being active (his only recent miss was blocked FG).  Marcus Thigpen multiple 80+ yard runs: Thigpen has now recorded two runs of 80+ yards this season - the first time in 24 years that a CFL player had more than one in a single season. The last was Cory Philpot in 1994 for BC with TD runs of 87 and 92 yards (Aug 11/94, Aug 27/94). Before that Jim Thomas 2 in 1965, Willie Fleming 2 in 1963 and Ed Buchanan 2 in 1962. Other CFL-wide Trends Heading Into Week #16:  7 FGs in a game: Another aspect of Ward's outstanding season is that he has had two games of 7 FGs made including last week vs Saskatchewan. Ward joins only three other players to ever record TWO games of 7+ FGs made in the same year. In fact, Ward is the only one among the four kickers to be a perfect 7-for-7 in each game.  Calgary in the playoffs?: The Stampeders can claim a playoff spot for a club record 14th consecutive season with a win this week. That would tie Ottawa (1956-69) for the 7th-longest streak in Canadian Football history.  West vs East: The West Division has clinched the series vs Eastern clubs with 22 interlocking wins to 11. That makes it 15 times in the last 17 years that the West has prevailed (2004 & 2015 the exceptions). The 4th and 5th place clubs in the West each have 6 wins and are currently in position to claim a Cross-Over berth for the third year in a row for the first time.  Mike Reilly 55 TD/ 5900+ yard Pace: Has accounted for 37 TDs this year, 26 passing/11 rushing. The CFL record for rushing TDs by a Quarterback is 14 by Doug Flutie (1991 BC) followed by Kerry Joseph (13, 2007) and Reilly himself at 12 last year. The combined pass/rush TD record is dominated by Flutie who has the 4 best years - 1994: 56 (48/8), 1993: 55 (44/11), 52 twice. Reilly is on pace for 55 combined TDs this year and a record 16 rushing TDs. His passing yard pace is for 5,914 yards. CFL Game #67 Team Notes – Toronto at Calgary:  1-point games: Including last week, the Argos have now had 4 games this year where the final margin was just one point. They are 2-2 in one-point games in 2018 (3 of which were started by McLeod Bethel-Thompson) - the CFL record for most games decided by one point in a season is 6 by Ottawa in 1993 (2-4 record). The CFL record for WINS by one point in a single season was set by Winnipeg in 1961 with 4.  Fridays Off: This is the first time all season that the Stamps will be playing on a Friday night - they have just two Friday games in 2018 and 11 on Saturdays. This will be Toronto's 5th Friday Night Football event of 2018 - and all of them on the road.  Avoiding 5 losses in a row: The Argos are on a 4-game losing streak, the longest ever in a single season for Coach Marc Trestman. He had only two 3-game losing streaks for Montreal from 2008 to 2012, and now has three for Toronto across 2017-18. The last time the Argos lost at least 5 in a row was the final 7 games of 2016.  9 in a row: The Stampeders have won the last 9 games against Toronto - all starts for QB Bo Levi Mitchell who is 9-0 vs the Argos. In all but one of the 9 straight wins, Calgary has built at least a 14-point lead. None of the last 5 encounters have gone down to the last 3:00 and Calgary's average margin over those 5 games has been 22.6 points.  11-1 Off a Bye: Calgary comes in off a bye week to play Toronto - they are 11-1 in post-bye games since 2011. Before their 40-27 defeat at Regina on Aug 19/18 after Bye #2 in 2018, they last lost in 2005 after a week off.  Calgary T/O Ratio, +17 to -5: In their first 7 games they were at a +17 Ratio, #1 in the CFL; since then the Stamps are at -5.  13 Toronto QB Sacks: With just 13 Sacks the Argos trail the rest of the CFL. They are on pace for 19 this year which would be the 2nd lowest recorded in CFL history.  Bo Levi Mitchell pace: Mitchell is on pace to set a career-high with 5,445 passing yards this year. He is averaging 302.5 yards per game, second only to his 316.8 per game in 17 starts in 2016. He leads the CFL with a 3.00 to 1 TD Pass to Interception Ratio in 2018 however, the only downside being that 3 of his 9 INTs have been returned for 'pick 6's' in 2018.  Mitchell All-Time QB Win % / TD Pass Streak: Following Calgary's last win, Bo Levi Mitchell's career winning % is now 66-12-2 .838 with a 10-2 .875 mark in 2018. Mitchell's record as a starter at McMahon Stadium is even better at 37-4 .902. He also has an active 13-game TD pass streak back to 2017 (his career-long streak is 21). He now ranks #24 with 22,979 career passing yards with Danny Barrett next ahead at 23,419. He is on pace to reach the Top 20 by season's end.  1st Down will be a key: This game features the club that has allowed the fewest average yards on 1st down plays (Calgary at just 5.5 yards) vs the club that allowed the most on average (Toronto at 7.7 yards). On Offence, Calgary is #2 averaging 7.2 yards on 1st down, Toronto #7 at 6.1 yards per play.  Singleton & Thurman: Singleton now has a CFL-best 79 tackles (tied for #1) but in 12 games has the highest season-long pace at 6.6 per game which would make for 118 by year's end. That would give him back-to-back 118+ tackle seasons. Jameer Thurman is #8 in the CFL with a career-high 77 Total Defensive Plays, already 4 more than in 2017 with 6 games left.  Romar Morris: Has scored 5 TDs in his last 2 games and rolled up 271 yards from scrimmage in the process.  S. J. Green: Recorded his 3rd game of 100+ yards last week with 6 catches for 106 yards. He now ranks #30 all-time with 8,804 yards and is in sight of the 9,000-yard mark (8,804). With 39 yards he can pass Ray Alexander (8,842) for #29 all-time.  McLeod Bethel-Thompson: Made his 6th straight start last week and set a career-high with 321 yards, his second 300+ game of the season.  James Wilder Jr.: Ranks #4 in the CFL in rushing with 665 yards on pace for just under 1,000 this season (997). His receiving yards picked up with 74 last week and his pace there is for 781 by the end of the year. _______________________________________________________________________________________

There is already a thread on this topic..

I realize this, but that wasn’t my point. I guess you would have had to see the actual tackles in question. They were about as clean as you could teach. In each instance, on the ones that I saw, the commentators were surprised a penalty was called. So was I. I saw no intent on those plays and it was confusing for the would be tackler. You could almost hear him ask “ how the h e l l am I supposed to tackle him then? You never want to see a QB get hit and hurt, but when the tackle is clean, then what?

Don’t know if many of you saw what the NFL is calling “roughing the passer” nowadays, but they seem to have taken tackling out of the equation. I’ve seen 3 instances, two by Clay Matthews, that show how to tackle properly. Yet he was flagged at least twice. It’s being noticed and talked about a lot. I hope they don’t go that far in the CFL. Maybe they’ll go this far in the NFL:

What do you mean smelling mistake?

I sure have liked the work of the Lowry line this pre-season..

I do give the Riders credit for some of their play, especially on defence and special teams, but man it’s hard to give them credit for their winning record when you see other teams like Toronto and Winnipeg, literally give them their victories..

J5V is deflated?

Luck cannot be created. What you described is fundamentally sound play assisted by hard work. That doesn’t create luck, it just provides better opportunities to be successful or, be unsuccessful if something out of their control intervenes. Luck - success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions.

Ah yes, the old tried and true cliche. It does make a good sound bite, but it really doesn’t explain luck or lack thereof..

Thanks a lot Coach. Don’t worry, I’ll be there for you next time!

Do you believe in luck? Is there something “real” about luck? I believe in luck although I can’t adequately explain it or describe it. But I know it’s there, (mostly evading me). But I sit beside people who lucky, and generally are lucky. I see it in them a lot. I accept the fact they are more lucky than I, and hence it doesn’t bother me. It’s just the way it is. But to deny a lucky bounce or a lucky trip or a lucky recovery is just silly. Things happen that even hard work or lots of practice can’t account for. I cannot see how anyone can deny they’ve witnessed some sort of lucky phenomenon, either big or small. It’s there. It’s real. “One of the reasons that we deny the role of luck is that it acts as a cold counterbalance to the notion of hard work. At every stage in our lives we are taught that the best way to make our way in the world is by hard work, tenacity, and grit. And while I believe there is a lot of truth to this, it also causes some perverse consequences. For instance, when we’re successful, we’re hesitant or even ashamed to admit that luck played a role because we somehow feel that diminishes what was under our control. Conversely, if we’re hit with bad luck, it’s culturally reinforced that that was our own fault. We’re led to believe that we’re responsible for outcomes not process, when in fact just the opposite is true. We are culturally conditioned to deny the role of luck because of its impact on our search for meaning”. - Farnham Street You can go on believing everything is structured and that you will be rewarded for it, but all I can say is...good luck with that.

You’re absolutely right. When wet beat Edmonton this week, I will include them..🙂 BC, Edmonton and Winnipeg could all have 7 losses by week’s end..

Injuries are not the focus of this thread. It’s the race between BC and Winnipeg for the crossover spot. Who gets the wins that earn that spot? All the rest of the talk (firing Coaches etc.) will be dealt with later. Besides, we’ve already covered that shyte. Deal with whom BC and the Bombers can beat to get there.

Hey, if that’s the way you want to interpret it, then have at ‘er.

You’re denying that possible injuries wouldn’t affect future games? It’s not excuses by the way. It’s just the way it is. Why would you deny that? What about the play of Jennings and Harris? Would their up or down play not affect their team’s outcomes? Its all relevant. * By the way...let’s see your picks.

...........No kidding June, we all feel like that.. The last few games for the Bombers and for the Lions. At stake - the crossover for playoffs...and a few jobs. Remaining games for both teams and possible outcomes: (my best guesses) BC Lions 6-6 At Hamilton - loss 6-7 Toronto - win 7-7 At Calgary- loss 7-8 Edmonton- win 8-8 At Saskatchewan- loss 8-9 Calgary- loss 8-10 👁‍🗨 A lot depends on the play of Jennings. He played very well in a loss-turned-win in the last game. Wpg. Blue Bombers 6-7 At Edmonton - win 7-7 we have to beat Edmonton once, might as well be the 1st game At Ottawa- loss 7-8 although it depends on which Trevor Harris shows up. Saskatchewan- win 8-8 Calgary - loss 8-9 At Edmonton- loss 8-10 👁‍🗨 Injuries recently sustained may determine our final positioning and the fate of out Coaching staff... Edmonton holds the key for both the Lions and Bombers..

Saskatchewan keeps finding ways to have games given to them.

Could be slaughter coming up. Toronto couldn’t afford any mistakes. Two big ones already.