Mr Dee

Their lineup: Ladd-Little-Wheeler Perreault-Scheifele-Ehlers Burmistrov-Lowry-Stafford. *** Burmistrov to 4th line...Thorburn to 3rd line Thorburn-Cormier-Peluso *** Peluso out now, Cormier out. Burmistrov, Copp, Petan Enstrom-Byfuglien Myers-Trouba Stuart-Postma

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Theres no such management 101 to cover what you're saying.Nobody hires personnel with the idea that they will fail. You might have a backup plan, but if you're thinking the personnel you hire might fail, you're setting yourself up to fail yourself, and really,,why in hell would you do that? That may be your management style, but it sure as hell isnt mine.

Yeah, I know these guys have histories, but nobody's implying we use virgins in those positions, unless there is some sort of sacrifice later, but there is nothing wrong in listening to a new way of doing something.Your point is well taken, but let me say it would be a shame to NOT give somebody a chance, even though you're impressed with his presentation, just because he doesn't have the preferred experience. For instance, there is somebody on our current staff who is smart, well liked, and considered by some to be going further in his coaching career. A person like T Edwards believes he's ready. But how can MOS give him a chance without OC experience? That would apply to a couple of people on the staff. And you ask, what can you learn from MB? Easy. How not to run an offence.

So, now the conspiracy reaches out to including Walters and the scouting department? Damn, these guys are smarter than I thought. He's not saying it's a conspiracy theory. It's just guys that can't win in the system or culture they're in here. Danny Mac knows what it takes to win as he's won 2 GC championships as a player. However, something is holding this team back. Maybe McManus should be using his playing experience as a coach instead of scouting. Perhaps we're not using the resources we have properly? Just a thought. Well, that's a better way to put it, but he is saying that Walters hired to fire, to cover his ass. In other words, setting up the scouting dept. to fail, so that he would be safe. And that's ridiculous. You may fail, but you don't hire guys or set up guys to fail to take the heat.

So, now the conspiracy reaches out to including Walters and the scouting department? Damn, these guys are smarter than I thought.

Re: iso's post Except for the fact that the staff has been expanded two fold over the previous regime. You're suggesting they were hired at half price?

You can't be serious with this post. He kept 2 people on that he knew couldn't do the job, so that he could have them around to fire , to save his job? There is no list. At least one that were aware of, so you don't know if other team's coordinators are, or aren't, on this list/no list. You seriously think that he'd still be around now if he'd fired Tracey and MB last year and still had a similar record? The other alternative is that he actually thought those two coordinators were good at their jobs, which brings his ability to tell good from bad into question. The list I'm talking about is the names that the fans and media have been putting together. PLAP, Buck, Khari, Howell, etc... Better choices would be Brady, Condell, Cortez. Guys who have options who we'd have to pay more and who would want to move to get a shot at a HC job and/or to get out from the shadow of good HC's. I doubt O'Shea would want to pick one of them though because they would all be better choices for the HC job too. If it's one thing we've learned about OS'hea, it's that he will put what's good for the organization ahead of what's good for him. He didn't hire Etch to have a throwaway coach, he basically had to hire him because there was no one left. MB? yech. Retaining MB instead of firing both mediocre coordinators, the brain thrust acquiesced to the feeling to the safety of having someone you know as opposed to not looking for the next one. And for continuity. He was wrong. But to suggest he kept a bad coach as a buffer is ridiculous. And just how do you know MOS doesn't have your list in mind?

What a load of crap. How do you uncover new coaches if you don't even give them a chance. If they deserve it of course. If everyone thought like you than we wouldn't have up an coming coaching talent like Jason Maas, Dave Dickenson or Marcus Brady. The same can be said for current coaches like John Hufnagel and Kent Austin. If Buck Pierce has the right aptitude and smarts. Why not? Same goes for Marcus Howell. A guy like Pierce has worked one on one with many different OC's over his college and pro career. I'm sure he's picked something up over those years. Absolutely right.The new guys that have been given chances, on both sides of the ball, (ex. Thorp, Maas, Brady, Condell) have shown well, either through an extension of their coaching staff, or completely on their own. How will we ever see new ideas besides the old X's and O's, if we don't seek out new thinking? Fresh offensive ideas, as yet not tried. The RedBlacks no huddle offence, as opposed to our stale no offence huddles. A "keep them guessing on D offence", as opposed to our "we know what you're going to do playbook". How about fresh and new as opposed to stale and re-cycled. I remember a quote from a defensive player when they were done thrashing our offence. He basically said "we knew exactly what they were going to do". That's basically been our Offensive scheme...for years. Unfortunately, O'Shea won't be able to go where no man has gone before, because he's got to hire that "name" and hopefully get it right this time.

You can't be serious with this post. He kept 2 people on that he knew couldn't do the job, so that he could have them around to fire , to save his job? There is no list. At least one that were aware of, so you don't know if other team's coordinators are, or aren't, on this list/no list.

Let's not forget, no names were mentioned from teams still in the playoffs other than a passing comment that Miller knew Jones. So, there's that.

Kirk Penton - So who's next? Sources tell The Sun the Bombers have already approached their former head coach and offensive co-ordinator, Paul LaPolice, and the TSN analyst didn't say no when asked Tuesday if he was interested in the job. “I got no comment on all that stuff,” LaPolice said. “I worry about the job I got right now.” Bombers president and CEO Wade Miller is a big fan of his former teammate, B.C. Lions receivers coach Khari Jones, and O'Shea said he wouldn't rule out Howell or Pierce as potential candidates. Saskatchewan Roughriders interim head coach Bob Dyce would be a possibility if he isn't retained by the Green and White. Dyce was Saskatchewan's OC during Willy's first season with the Roughriders in 2012. Another name that can't be ignored is former Roughriders head coach Danny Barrett, who coached Willy at the University at Buffalo, and at last report they still keep in touch. Barrett recently became the interim head coach at the University of Central Florida, so his future is up in the air as well.

Burris did well in Jason Maas's no huddle offence, but he would look horrible in Bellefeuille's no offence huddles.

I'm glad we "ended up" with Willy, going forward at least. Hey, we swung and missed on Burris, but there is no way in Astonishville Mississippi that you would have guessed Burris would even be close to the season he's had. Otherwise, would he have even been in Ottawa if that was foreseen?

I would hope the next OC isn't as closed minded about the QB position as you are. I'll give Drew Willy credit for his unbelievable toughness. But he hasn't played enough to prove he is worth $400k. Which is a problem for Winnipeg going forward. It means they have to allow a big percentage of the cap for QB if they want any real competition at the QB position. For example, let's say Harris or Ray is available. One of those guys could easily come in and beat Willy for the job. But they won't be cheap. (Assuming Wpg wants another pocket passer). Just who has the closed mind though? I'm not worried what we have to pay for a franchise QB. And that's what Willy will be. And I want it to be here, on a new start with a capable OC. Willy would have got us into the playoffs this year...with Bellefeuille as OC. He has already looked like a starter as a QB...with Bellefeuille as OC. The shackles have been removed. Let's see what Willy can do now. As far as Harris goes, well he won't "goes" anywhere. And I like him, but he did hit his wall too, and looked quite average of late. They will keep him. Ray is Ray. Very capable of winning..just not with us. We can't put all our chips on that play.

No, the game could have progressed quite nicely, even if it wasn't driven by greed. I'm glad you're happy paying that ticket price to see some very average players getting paid millions of dollars because that's what been determined for us, by the owners, and the player's association.

I don't think there is doubt in anybody's mind, including our next OC, that Willy is our starting QB. (well, maybe in your mind)

Private, behind the door deals, will never be good for the common folk. This deal is no better. Justin. Boot the deal.

And there it is.It is ALL about the money, not about the game. The Americans came in, stole our Cup, and bastardized the game with expansion and what-not...for the money. Exhorbidant salaries and overpriced tickets, is what we the fans got in return. Yeah, you want to talk about an "old boys club"?, get Bettman to introduce you.

It's not about the defence being tired as much as it is the defence, after 2 minutes, having to go back on the field. When the offence is a two-and-outer, it sure as hell works in the opposing team's favour to get right back on the field and build the momentum. Tell me what offence doesn't like being out there more and more when the other team can't move the ball? Another chance they say? Great!

Jones would be a reach, but inside one's suit pocket, so to speak, too convenient, "not the big play" we definitely need to make. More like a Maas, or a Brady. That would be the "outside hire" that makes sense.

Two words that couldn't mean more...given the situation: Bellefeuille sacked! How appropriate.

TV: TSN3, FS-N Season series: The Winnipeg Jets defeated the Minnesota Wild 5-4 at MTS Centre on Oct. 26. Drew Stafford scored two goals and Blake Wheeler had two assists to lead the Jets. Jason Zucker scored 10 seconds into the game, setting a record for the fastest goal in Wild history. - Winnipeg opens a four-game road trip Tuesday, all against Central Division opponents. - "It's always big points up for grabs when you're playing teams from in your division," forward Bryan Little told the Jets website. "They're always tight games [against Minnesota] and we're looking to start the trip off right." - Forward Andrew Copp, who hasn't played since Oct. 31 because of an upper-body injury, practiced Monday and is expected to play. "It's hard to watch anytime," Copp said. "You want to be out there contributing in any way possible, but it is what it is and you've got to work through it." - Forward Patrice Cormier was reassigned to Manitoba of the American Hockey League. - Minnesota will be without defenseman Marco Scandella, who is away from the team because of personal reasons. - Forward Zach Parise remains out with a sprained MCL in his right knee and coach Mike Yeo said he will miss all of Minnesota's upcoming four-game road trip, which begins Thursday against the Carolina Hurricanes. - The Wild recalled forward Kurtis Gabriel on Monday and he will make his NHL debut against Winnipeg. "It gives us the ability to bring in a bigger body," Yeo said. "It also gives us a chance to see how these guys do. I thought [Christoph] Bertschy did a good job so we'll see how [Gabriel] does. It's a good chance for him to get in there and show what he can do." --Jets NHL preview

I'll give you the OC being an upgrade, but their backup QBs would have them fighting for a playoff spot..like us.

Winner of the word of the day!! I mean who uses the word discussion in a sentence?