The Unknown Poster

The thing is, you have to eat it. In every interaction with police, just eat it. Even in the aftermatch of the Bland arrest, the experts were saying, even if you're 100% right, eat the bust and deal with it later. You cant win with a cop in that moment. They are like Terminators. They cant be reasoned with, cant be bargained with and will absolutely never stop. The incident in BC where the cop pulled over a car because the passenger gestured at him, the cop even threatened to do a road-side inspection and have the car scrutinized. Thats what can happen. On the way to Grand Beach years ago, I got pulled over for speeding. My passenger had a video camera and we began filing, not because we thought the cop was up to no good, just for the "fun" of capturing the stop...and to further embarrass me since I was actually in the wrong. The officer returned to hand me the ticket and ordered us to turn off the camera. Police have to accept that everyone has a camera and have the right to film. As a law enforcement officer you dont want your name and face online. But its the risk that comes with the job now. I know a few years ago there were threats made against some Corrections Officers in town and they all immediately erased their online presence. When that incident with the school teachers doing a provocative dance at an assembly occurred, the media went to the teachers' facebook and took innocent pics of her on vacation to use, bikini pics to make her look like some sort of hyper-sexual bimbo...and I knew teachers who also immediately erased their online presence. I was thinking the same thing when I watched the video. Just do as the officer asked and nothing probably would have happened. It looked like she had attitude with him the whole time. It's like when you deal with the customs guys at the border. Just answer them truthfully and suck it up. They're out to protect you (for the most part) and when you resist you end up looking even more suspicious. Also, this is why I don't keep a facebook account. People can do crazy stuff with your information and pictures. I think its unfortunate that we cant disagree with or risk offending authority. If you are pulled over, you should be able to question the probable cause or film the interaction. But that alone could tick off the officer and then you're screwed. I've heard horror stories of people going through customs. Since I've flown in a lot of US wrestling stars. Winnipeg has a terrible reputation at the airport (and I've heard similar things about Pembina crossing as well). The US customs officers are well thought of though. I dont think I've ever cleared US customs in Winnipeg but everytime I've cleared US, they've been great. Canadian? Not so much. I havent had a bad experience per se, just the officers are generally not friendly, not polite and look to be miserable. I did get pulled into secondary screening for the first time ever this past January. Ofcourse, she insisted I unlock my phone. Thats one I choke on. But I knew they have the legal right to look through electronic items (Im not sure I agree with that). I've been told if you refuse, they will just lock you up til you change your mind.

The thing is, you have to eat it. In every interaction with police, just eat it. Even in the aftermatch of the Bland arrest, the experts were saying, even if you're 100% right, eat the bust and deal with it later. You cant win with a cop in that moment. They are like Terminators. They cant be reasoned with, cant be bargained with and will absolutely never stop. The incident in BC where the cop pulled over a car because the passenger gestured at him, the cop even threatened to do a road-side inspection and have the car scrutinized. Thats what can happen. On the way to Grand Beach years ago, I got pulled over for speeding. My passenger had a video camera and we began filing, not because we thought the cop was up to no good, just for the "fun" of capturing the stop...and to further embarrass me since I was actually in the wrong. The officer returned to hand me the ticket and ordered us to turn off the camera. Police have to accept that everyone has a camera and have the right to film. As a law enforcement officer you dont want your name and face online. But its the risk that comes with the job now. I know a few years ago there were threats made against some Corrections Officers in town and they all immediately erased their online presence. When that incident with the school teachers doing a provocative dance at an assembly occurred, the media went to the teachers' facebook and took innocent pics of her on vacation to use, bikini pics to make her look like some sort of hyper-sexual bimbo...and I knew teachers who also immediately erased their online presence.

Rich - I agree with you. I worked in nightclubs for many many years so I have seen the best and worst of cops. We had cops that arrived with a built-in bias towards bouncers. And we have had cops show up and say they'd never do our job because we deal with much of the same situations but have no authority, no back up, no weapons, and the law doesnt protect us. I had a similar scenario to your friend. Ill try to make this the short version....lol Had a brawl at the bar where I worked. Birthday group versus gangsters (illegally wearing support clothing, which we didnt know about until the fight). I was actually the only person assaulted. Cops came. We had it all under control but ofcourse, separated the groups and were ejecting the birthday group which angered them. One of the guys got in a verbal altercation with my security partner who threw him out (shove out the door, guy charged forward, shoved again). Cops arrive and Cop 1 is immediately aggressive towards security. Refused to talk to us (we called them), refused to detain or even speak with the gangsters. Let them walk away even though they were wearing support clothing. Exasperated and angry, I implored Cop 2 to not let them walk off. Cop 1 began berating me, ordered me to leave or else... when I looked down at his badge number on his shoulder patch, he grabbed me, forcibly trying to push me off balance (this is a trick to make it look like you're resisting) and said I was under arrest for assaulting an officer (lol). When I pointed out our many surveillance cameras, he said "Ill find someone that says you assaulted them". He came back after getting the birthday group to say I assaulted them. The story being it was me (even thought it was my partner) who threw the guy out but now instead of a shove it was a punch...and the rest of the group wrote witness statements to that effect. Cop 1 wrote a sworn statement that he saw me punch the guy as he drove up. Cop 2 backed him. We would not give them our video that night. Which is fortunate. We made a copy which I took home. Two days later, 20 cops hit the hotel executing a search warrant to sieze the video. Long story short, LERA took up my complaint, said it was one of the best they had ever seen. The cop flat out lied in his statement. And it couldnt be mistaken identity as my partner and I were about 4 inches and 60 lbs different, he had light hair and a beard, I had dark hair and clean shaven, he had a short sleeve black shirt, I had a blue wind breaker. Not mistakes you'd think two cops would make. When LERA questioned the cops, Cop 1 actually maintained, while being shown the video, that my partner was me. Cop 2 admitted he wasnt sure, didnt see the assault and his partner might be wrong. Cops refused multiple requests from the Crown to turn over the video. This is another game they play. They know the charges are bogus but the longer it takes, the more money it costs me. Crown wouldnt look at my copy because I might have "doctored" it. Finally, after my lawyer threatened to petition the judge to dismiss, the cops turned over the video. Crown watched it with my lawyer, admitted it supported my position. Her offer? Drop the charges against me if I drop the LERA complaint. I was gutted. LERA was going to call for a hearing at which time I'd be able to question the police. I had worked on an entire Perry Mason routine with the critical moment being getting the Cop to go on record again saying that I was the guy in the video, only to have my partner then enter the room wearing what he was wearing in the video. But alas...what choice did I have? How dare the Crown act in defense of a lying cop in a civilian matter? Just awful. And yet, I am almost always on the side of the police. But as Rich said, there are the good cops, and the small amount of bad cops. But the problem is, the good cops cover for the bad cops. It's the culture of police work. Interestingly I ran into a friend I hadnt seen in awhile recently. He's a cop. I joked that I would drop his name next time I get traffic stopped. He said, in seriousness, dont drop my name fro a traffic stop but if you ever get into really deep ****, call me, Ill take care of it. I think it's training and the culture. And until it changes, incidents like this will continue. What amazes me is, in light of all these incidents, why are cops not hyper vigilant to how they are behaving, perceived and ofcourse, being video'ed? If anything would make them be extra cautious, its these things...and yet it seems they arent. Take the BC case recently. A cop was driving and swerved or something because he was looking at his computer. A vehicle driving near him, behind him...whatever, sees this and the passenger throws his hands up like "WTF". The cop pulls the car over. ZERO probable cause to pull that car over. The passenger surreptitiously records the stop. The cop is clearly angry and admits he had no reason to stop them other than to ask the passenger if he had "something to say" to the cop. And he goes on to say that if you ever make a gesture to a cop again, the same thing will happen. Thats ridiculous.

Do you have a link to this video? I cant find a link to any video that shows this. I saw a story where the cop's lawyer shows a video but it begins after the shooting. It shows the cop getting up off the ground which is not evidence that he was dragged by the car. The cop's video shows he was not dragged by the car. The additional video from other officers doesnt do the cop any favours. They immediately begin working on their story. "Dragged me" "Thought he was gonna run be over" "He kept reaching for something". These are lies. If you engage in a righteous shooting, you dont need to lie and you dont need your co-workers to lie for you. I took the side of the cop in the shooting of the guy that with the warrant who ran off. Not this time. Cowboy cop decided no one was going to disobey him.

LOVE this topic. Im an avid reader/watcher of all things JFK assassination. And my opinion has changed multiple times over the years. On the specific topic, if you watch the JFK film, the Donald Sutherland character, who was very very loosely based on Col. L Fletcher Prouty (loosely because Prouty had nothing to do with JFK at the time of the assassination, never met Garrisson and simply speculated like everyone else except that he has very legitimate credentials), talks about the lax security - open air car, people in the windows etc. But I recall seeing a debunker video that indicated this was not abnormal for the time. Now, they go to great pains to make it appear the President is "open" but when he's outside, if you see longer shots, he's speaking through clear bullet proof glass. Even saying that, Im surprised there hasnt been an attempt on the President in so many years. Aside from a couple not nuts climbing the White House fence, when was the last one, Saddam on Bush Sr? For what it's worth, I *think* there was a conspiracy (which people often forget is now official position since the House Select Committee on Assassinations deemed it a probably conspiracy) but that Oswald was involved. Its really shocking that such a crime has never been fully and thoroughly investigated. A real investigation would exhume Kennedy's body for a new autopsy. And there are classified documents that are still sealed. Its hard to believe it was a grand conspiracy between the CIA, the Cubans, the Russians, the Mob and members of the cabinet. I think those were all individual theories that have been morphed into one massive conspiracy. And I think some efforts to "do the right things" hampered the investigation. I think the Kennedy's were powerful enough to keep things private (the rumor that Bobby essentially stole JFK's brain from the national archives and had it placed in the casket for burial being one) and if you believe LBJ was not involved, the feeling that the nation needed to heal and put it behind them led to a desire to just close the book on the whole thing. That would never happen today. Exhume his body and then you will know for sure where the bullets came from. If they did all come from behind, then it was Oswald. If even one came from the front, then it was a conspiracy and if you accept that it was a conspiracy it brings into question so many other acts that you have to believe it was a grand conspiracy.

This is exactly why it's mind blowing that anyone thinks the NDP would be could economic managers. I guess when you hve no problem raising taxes it's easy to pay for everything.

^^^^ lol Listen if you hve an irrational fear of Harper so be it. But the point is the left always thinks it's not a matter of opinion. They feel they are right and everyone else is wronf. Hence the idea that it's okay to fear big bad scary Harper but it's crazy to fear the policies of the NDP. Can't have it both ways. The fearmongering about Harper that he had a secret agenda didn't work. So now it's just a message of "he has to go!" With little reasoning. Country is in good shape. You can disagree. That's why we have elections. Despite what the left thinks, it's still a democracy. NDP taking the first heat of the campaign.

I'm Surprised he hasn't been signed by another team already. Inexpensive. Good 4th line player on probably a lesser team.

I saw a Post online from a minor celebrity demanding Harper's ouster. Went on about his scary policies and HIW hes destroying democracy. Someone replied saying the opposition partoes scare him and the guy replied the irrational fear of the opposition is part of Harper's game I thought that summed it al up perfectly. Fear of Harper is reasonable and expected. Even after 10+ years. But fear of the opposition is irrational. Lol

I assume Garth signed a great deal in favour of the Bombers before he went there so you never know, it might not be the most favourable deal for the club. If they want to gut their sports department but can't because of their commitment to the Bonbers.... I still can't see them "selling" the rights at all. I assume TSN would be interested upon expiry of the contract though.

Well they've said its a 777 so it has to be 370. But France will be examining the pieces on Wednesday

Let's hope so.

I woudnt trust MulclAir as far as I could throw him

Generally no government should stay in power too long. Look what happened to the Cretien liberals. I knew a girl who was in a young liberals group and she said the party had grown tired of him and wanted Martin to take over but Cretien stayed too long. However I don't see a strong party waiting in the wings. I do think if Harper wins he will step down. So one more victory and hopefully passes the reigns on.

Why does Harper have to go? Usually these threads turn nasty. The majority of anti Haroer sentiment still seems empty personal attacks or based on some strange belief he is a crazy agenda he's waiting to unleash. Canada continues to ranked highly on the world stage. Last thing we need now is the old "change" routine for no legitimate reason.

Smart strategy by Harper. But if today is any indication it's going to be an annoying two and a half months of fighting. I see no reason to change my vote. Unless the Liberals make a big comeback and why would they, it's Cons vs NDP. And that's an easy decision for me.

Isn't Mac the choice of most graphic designers? I used to be....

Hogan never pinned him during their WWE feud. Piper was very smart and a rare power in that he could avoid jobs. Bret Hart considered Piper putting him over clean for the IC title the match that made him. Ironically one of the reasons Hogan left WWE was because he refused to put Hart over. I think hogan and Piper traded victories in WCW. If I recall Piper beat Hogan via sleeper hold. I can't recall how it worked the other way. And supposedly Hogan beat Piper back in WWE when he was Mr America Another great Piper story is that in wcw he was so furious at Kevin Nash for no selling during a match he physically attacked him in the locker room. Which is bat **** crazy.

Some dubious sources saying boston wants Buff. So for you Bruins fans what do they have that cane make this deal work from our perspective?

That's fantastic.

His last public appearance was defending Hulk Hogan. Fitting.

You can't say for sure because injuries happen etc but if you take mario's PPG and extrapolate that over Wayne's games played it's very very close. But I was mostly referring to season records.

That's his story. But he might be wrong. There will be an in depth bio next week. Losing to Larry is a better story than losing to Condello lol

So young. Was just interviewed about Hogan by several outlets very recently. Let's also remind everyone he was a Winnipegger. Went to Windsor Park Collegiate. Trained to wrestle here and had his debut match here. Some say against Tony Condello Others say against Larry Hennig. We negotiated to bring him in in 2002 as part of a double bill with Bret Hart. We're going to get Piper the key to the city. His schedule didn't work out unfortunately. He got the key in 2008 For many of us he's as much a part of our childhood as Hogan. And as Hogan's foil, was as responsible for the 80's wrestling boom. Sad. RIP

Yikes