The Unknown Poster

perhaps your point should be that you don't really have a clue if it was any of the other Jets what would happen! Why would that be my point? What an odd post. If that was an insult, you will have to do better. The use of "I think" in my statements would indicate an opinion or speculation. Thank you.

No Kane on ice in Winnipeg. No Marchand on ice in Boston. Draw tenuous connections. ;-) For what its worth, Kane is at the MTSC right now, reportedly having an injury evaluated.

That would be a colossal failure, IMO. But to what Rich wrote above, whats your end game if you're the Jets? An unhappy player with declining offensive stats who is *still* playing hard every game and has interest from other teams. You either hope the price gets driven up through a bidding war and take your chances on the law of diminishing returns or you look at whats on the table, take the best offer and turn the page. The Jets would get better offers in the summer. So if they are seriously considering offers right now, its clearly because they want to turn the page and that would indicate to me that there is more than a track suit that is going on here. If you were to become aware that Kane was a problem in the room or impacting morale, would you do what you had to do to move him today? If they trade Kane, they will make the best deal they can. So whether thats a top six, a prospect and a first rounder or two bottom six players and a prospect or whatever, it is what it is.

Chris Johnston tweet: Surveyed some NHL scouts and feeling is that price on Evander Kane has dropped. One top asset could be enough to land him from #NHLJets. ***Interesting. Will the Jets take less than most would expect to wash their hands of him?

CJOB reporting the President of the Chamber of Commerce has said Bowman must make a public apology to save the True North development. I can sort of see Mark Chipman being the type of guy who would let this development teeter on the brink over calling his integrity into question. Bowman apologizing probably sees TN move ahead with the project. A lot of egos at play here. Realistically, Bowman is going to have to admit he saw the video and was wrong when he said he didnt. I wonder if he maybe there was some reason he didnt remember seeing it *cough* drunk *cough*

The plot thickens. If they are working on a trade, its smart to keep him away from media and his fellow players who are likely none to thrilled with him.

About as much as the rest of us. Probably more than the players that all signed long term deals. Personally, I like Winnipeg

I guess it depends how much he wants out of Winnipeg.

Renaud Lavoie (Montreal reporter) tweets that the reason Kane was a scratch is just "the tip of the iceberg"

Yowza. Here we go. This is more than just the track suit thing obviously. Question is, will Kane announce he is able to play or shut himself down and ruining a trade?

Are you suggesting the Chipmans havent spent their own money in this town? People get wrapped up in the nonsense media spinning. This is what I meant by the unfortunate anti-Chipman sentiment growing. I'm pretty sure you've misinterpreted what he said. I think he means Chipman is one of the only guys in this city who is willing to spend his own money to get things done. In that case I agree. Im overly sensitive about the Anti-Chipman rhetoric. I lived here in the 90's when downtown was a ghost town and everyone my age was racing to get out of here. Gee, so True North gets $7 million or whatever per year in kick backs from revenue that wouldnt exist without them. Big deal. If someone came to me and said "if you give me $1, I will give you $10", I'd take that deal.

Yes definitely. Unfortunately I'm not sure there are many good options at forward in St. Johns right now. They also have Stuart on IR and Im not sure he was really needing to go on IR other then the Jets had one too many people. They will still need to juggle. This is where the depth bites us again and is something we've talked about endlessly. When talking about the three extra D the team carries, I said to a friend "they carry three extra forwards too. its called the fourth line".

i agree on both counts. I think Kane has shown a warrior mentality, playing hurt, coming back from injury sooner then expected etc. But if, after what happened this week, he opts to shut himself down, it will be seen as him quitting on the team in the midst of a playoff push. Kane is the type of player to get more in a trade in the off-season when more teams will be willing and able to make offers. But if he's out for the season, it *really* handcuffs Chevy and forces him to have to make a deal somewhere. The ripple effect would be tough. Buff doesnt want to play forward and has been better on D but he's the only back-up forward they have right now. They are carrying three extra D and cant do anything with any of them due to waiver requirements and I believe they are at their maximum allowed players so they cant just recall a forward.

Which is the part that makes no sense. Since Chief seemed to walk that back and confirm Chipman's position, one can assume Bowman is doing damage control right now. The development itself looks great and would be wonderful in that area of downtown. I love the synergy between the two lots and the "crossing over" of the street to tie the two together. I realise some people get bent out of shape because of the amount of development that Chipman family seemed to be involved in. But so be it. There was a time when no one would near downtown Winnipeg either as a visitor or developer.

You are correct ofcourse. Which is my point. I dont think this is an example of a player who does everything right running late and showing up in a track suit and getting humiliated by being scratched in his home town. I think its more. It might even be Maurice trying to force the issue to a head. Bob Mackenzie tweeted that prior to the season he felt this was the year Kane and the Jets either committed to each other or went their separate ways and that may now be a scenario the team and player are forced to confront.

Amazing that the plane managed to miss buildings and cars. Speculation is that the left propeller was not spinning as fast as the right so they think engine failure. From what I understand, that is not impossible to pull out of but requires very specific action on the part of the pilots and they would have needed speed to maintain lift. I wonder if they were trying to land in the water and clipped the bridge during that effort.

Are you suggesting the Chipmans havent spent their own money in this town? People get wrapped up in the nonsense media spinning. This is what I meant by the unfortunate anti-Chipman sentiment growing. From everything we know, the construction firm had no success in luring a hotel development and asked to be released from its obligation to do so. Chipman's already had an option on 225 and thought maybe we can combine the two. Mark resigned from CV board because he would now be doing business with them. There were no other expressions of interest on the property and SOD had been actively looking. CV was facing a very dire scenario and along came True North with a proposal. Win/Win. The issue here is, why would Bowman lie about this especially when it would have been seen as a win for his council to develop two properties into a very impressive multi-use development, plus his relationship with Chipman. It really makes no sense and you got that from Mark who, when asked why Bowman would pretend he didnt know about it, was incredulous in saying I dont know, I dont know. Even Bowmans COS seems to be backing up Chipman. Mayor will be in full damage control mode now to save this deal.

Now talk he might shut himself down and have surgery. I do find it difficult to believe that this was all it was. For example, if Wheeler or Little did the same thing in their hometown, would they be scratched? It worries me because to me it seems more likely this was either the "last straw" for Maurice and he felt he had to do something or an attempt to nip in the bud whatever issues might exist. Will be very interesting to see what Kane does/says today.

What a goofball.

Lawless says no. I think Kane is hurt but not injured. He thought he was playing last night. Had a bunch of tickets for friends and family.

I'm on Chipman's side here. I remember that fundraiser too. He did not publicly endorse Bowman at the time of that fundraiser. And as he said today he was uncomfortable doing so and now regrets it for this very reason. Just because Sammy had a corrupt relationship with shindico doesn't mean true north is corrupt. Seems like things were above board where they are concerned. The mayor needs to get his head into the game here. Trying to push TN around just so it appears he's tough is the wrong thing to do. Hopefully TN goes ahead with the development plan.

What a mess. I feel for Mark Chipman who has never seemed less than honest and forthright. To me, he seems like a guy who loves this city and wants to invest in it and for that he is accused of "secret" dealings, conflicts of interest and illegal collusion. He's clearly furious with Bowman and Im beginning to question the mayor. Seems to me Bowman is so consumed with appearing to be the anti-Sammy that he's actually lying about the facts. He claims he never knew of this deal. He saw the video. I didnt watch it but Chipman played it and reporters said it was very clear what it was and what it entailed. It will be a real shame if True North reconsiders their development plan. Ultimately, they proposed the plan because they think it will be profitable so I see no reason why they wouldnt move ahead. I think they are firing a shot across the bow so to speak to get the city to back off.

cbc.ca The head of True North Sports and Entertainment is firing back at claims by Winnipeg Mayor Brian Bowman that a deal to develop part of the city's downtown is secretive, and is now putting the proposal on hold as as result. Mark Chipman, True North's executive chairman of the board, spoke to reporters on Wednesday about an option agreement his company has with CentreVenture Development Corp. to develop vacant lots at 220 and 225 Carlton St. that CentreVenture owns. A visibly angry Chipman took offence to suggestions that the agreement was an "untoward" backroom deal, and he disputed claims Bowman has made about how little he knows about it. Bowman insisted that neither he nor council has been able to see the details of the option agreement. On Tuesday, the mayor told reporters that his chief of staff met with former CentreVenture CEO Ross McGowan in December and was shown a video about some sort of downtown development. However, Bowman claimed that the video did not contain any information about the lot of Carlton Street, and the information provided was not clear. On Wednesday, Chipman said he showed Bowman the video of the proposed development, called True North Square, during an "impromptu meeting" at a Winnipeg Jets hockey game at the MTS Centre on November 18, Chipman noted that Bowman was at the game with Kevin Chief, Manitoba's minister responsible for the City of Winnipeg. There have been photos on Twitter of the pair together. Chipman says there has been no further dialogue with the mayor since November. CentreVenture claims that Bowman's chief of staff was sent an email in November, which contained some details about the proposed development and conditional offer. CentreVenture board chair Kurt Vossen has also said Bowman has not sought out more information about the deal. However, Bowman and members of the EPC had numerous questions of Vossen at a special meeting last week and the mayor and his cabinet have repeatedly said they haven't received all the answers they want. Chipman, who was a board member at CentreVenture, said he immediately recused himself from any discussions on CentreVenture's involvement in the deal. On Wednesday, Chipman said the project is "absolutely not a certainty," and he is putting the $400-million proposed development work on hold for now. As well, he said he regrets publicly endorsing Bowman last fall's civic election campaign because he's concerned people may now see that endorsement as a way to curry favour with the mayor.

Florida has been linked to Kane rumours in the past.

Couple more for fun: To the Winnipeg Jets 1.) R.J. Umberger 2.) 2015 1st Round Selection 3.) Matt Read 4.) 2016 2nd Round Selection To the Philadelphia Flyers 1.) Evander Kane 2.) Zack Bogosian Philly gets Kane + Buff Jets get: B Schenn, Read, Coburn, Hagg, 1st ****I think Philly is a good fit. But I also think *if* Kane was traded, it wouldnt be until the off-season.