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Sums up my original point exactly. He's getting $600k elite hard money (including $100k bonus Jan 15) but the club is no longer getting elite play from him. Bombers are hamstrung - paying more for a diminishing asset. I don't blame Collaros for taking the dough - it could be his last year so, y'know, take the money. But Walters should've seen this coming and done more to mitigate shambolic O line pass pro. With the OC changes, I could see ZC actually playing less this season and more emphasis on run and run-option. Backfield with Oliveira, Streveler, Peyton Logan and Demski with some creativity and misdirection gonna be interesting.

When you look at ZC stats from last season he's very comparable to Dru Brown and Jake Maier (not very good) but Zach makes $600k/per. Even Rourke had his fat deal in BC renegotiated to be more team friendly but you don't hear that happening in 'Peg. Walters is hamstrung by his overpay at QB. You can't overpay for mediocre QB play. I say this is one of the MBB forumites who wanted to keep Brown over Collaros as it was evident to some -even in '23- that ZC was in decline.

Oops ... first posted this in the non-bombers thread but my question still stands: Who's in the QB room? So far we have ZC, Terry Wilson Jr., Jake Dolegala under contract. The club re-signed QB Darren Grainger in October only to see him suddenly "retire" in January. What's the deal with Strevy - will he be back? Who's left in the pool of FA QBs that we should grab - or do we need another young developmental guy along the lines of Grainger?

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I like that new OC Jason Hogan is Canadian. Means he knows how to use a field of play that is 65 yards wide. Jarious Jackson is hopefully going to help young Terry Wilson. And JJ might even help Collaros who - let's face it - has struggled, esp last year with the worst TD to INT percentage and worst QB rating in the league. Final year of ZC's 3 year deal - don't suppose there's much incentive for him to re-negotiate for the good of the club.

Surely, at some point, we will sign some serious competition for Sheahan at punter. I know there's more to it than simple distance and hang time but it seemed like we always struggled to gain field position last year and our punter had the worst average punting distance in the CFL, by a considerable margin. The best punter - Jake Julien, had a an average of almost 10 yards better per punt than our guy.

I still want to know why ZC was still in the Grey Cup game after suffering a game-changing injury to the finger on his throwing hand with 2:35 left in Q3 and Bombers down by just 7. Any experienced OC would've instantly gone with the backup QB and focused on feeding Brady - unless Bombers OC was overruled.

He is the best. Disappointed but not surprised he re-signed with Argos. I remember Janarion single-handedly won a couple of close games for Winnipeg while he was here. A sacrilege that the Bombers let a game-changer like him get away.

Fatboi prob could've returned this for a century - holes you could drive a truck through: https://www.espn.in/video/clip?id=27992094

Anyone else wonder why it's taking so long to hire a new OC? Maybe we will hear something this week. Rumours?

Just noticed: Jake Dolegala Height: 6 ft 7 in (2.01 m) Weight: 242 lb (110 kg) Willie Jefferson Height 6 ft 7 in (2.01 cm) Weight : 245 lb (111 kg) Bookends!

If you watched Kyle Walters press conference today you can see Bombers expect Ford to get big offers from other clubs and likelihood of keeping him here seems very uncertain. Would love to see both the Ford brothers in Winnipeg in 2025 but chances are a scenario like that will materialize in a place like Hamilton.

100%. But as you say - different sized horns. Collaros wasn't playing well in the big game, even prior to his injured hand. The cracks in his game started to show back in 2023. Fairly large horns there. MOS shouldn't have put his injured QB back in the game when he's been told the player can't grip the ball. More large horns. Brady the league's MOC and MOP not fed the ball. Horns for both MOS and for play-caller Buck on that one - and also (again) for Collaros who decided to throw on RPOs, despite knowing his hand was a liability. I would also place a little thorny crown on Kyle Walters for signing Collaros to a 3-year deal that hamstrung the club on the salary cap which has led to other consequences.

100%. Given Collaros's struggles in the 2023 season - even then many could see his deer in the headlights look even under slightest pressure, his lack of resolve to stay in the pocket for an extra beat, his off-target throws. This past season should've have been the time to get your back-up QB some meaningful live fire. Walters should be able to see how Streveler was not used optimally. Let's see if the OC and HC are held to account.

USA player recruitment and Canuck drafting has been and continues to be the great strength of this organization, esp on the D side of the ball, but positive overall. HC & OC have become liabilities to the point where they cancel out the above.