Doublezero

When the foot goes out the play is dead. Doesn't matter where the ball is at that point. Can you show me where it says in the CFL rule book that placement is based on where the ball goes out and not the foot? I understand that this would apply to a goal-line play. In that instance it is only when the ball that crosses the plane of the goal that a score is recorded - that's whey you get players diving and extending the ball for the corner marker - like Sheed did so amazingly last year. But I'm not sure that applies anywhere else on the field. As I said, on the sideline for example, at the instant a player steps out of bounds the play is dead. Doesn't matter where the ball is because the play is dead. In this case, VA had already stepped out of bounds. The ball was still moving in the air during his stretch but that's irrelevant.

Agreed. it looks on the CFL.ca highlights as if VA's foot touched the sideline just shy of the 52. And they needed to get to the 53 for the 1st down so he was a full yard short. VA said he thought he stretched and got it - but I believe the rule for ball placement is at the spot where the player steps out of bounds - not where the the ball is when the player goes out of bounds. After all, he stepped out of bounds while the ball was in his hand and still in the air. And the play is dead at the instant the players foot touches the out of bounds mark. You can stretch all the way to Saskatoon, but the ball is no longer live or in play. Someone on the other forum was saying it should be marked where the ball goes out of bounds not where the foot goes out, but I think that would be incorrect (unless we are talking about the goal line). Sometimes, if there is some doubt, the officials will give the ball carrier some benefit and mark it half way between where a knee or foot goes down and the forward point of a stretch. But in this case the sideline official was right there to see exactly where VA's foot stepped on the sideline marker. And he correctly marked it there. Great tackle by Bighill, BTW.

It was rumoured they tried to move Schmidt over the summer and there were no takers due to his fat contract. Agreed Jets outplayed the Flames last night but as far as Schmidt is concerned it wasn't just that one icing play, he consistently coughs up the puck - 3 or 4 times last night alone. He's a major liability since he almost always struggles during the puck battle or shovels a soft pass that's easily picked. The weakest link. No doubt Heinola would have replaced him had the kid not been injured.

Time to send Nate Schmidt packing. Guy is just a turnover machine.

I was at the game, in the stands behind the bench 10 rows up. I watched him closely. Schoen was definitely nursing a "lower body" ouch when he came out of the game. He was mobile and walking on the sidelines, trying to keep the weight off and testing things - walking & trotting a little. I won't say any more than that, other than to venture that he would not have been effective had he gone back onto the field of play. Hopefully everyone is all healed up after the bye-week. The atmosphere during the game was amazing, by the way. Boisterous supportive crowd of Big Blue fans behind the Bombers bench. All the Bomber players noticed and definitely appreciated that support from the fans. Post-game victory chants echoed through BC Place for a long time as Bomber fans (lots of them) celebrated that exciting and important win!

Keep 'em guessing, is the idea there.

Big game. I'll be there with 6 more. We'll be cheering and wearing BLUE!

Chirping from the bench that it shouldve been a PI

Johnny Augustine should be in there

Oline isn't deciding to repeatedly desperation throw the ball into a pack of defenders

I don't know whats wrong with Collaros this season but something isn't right with him

Overthrow by Zach

Dumb throw. Saved by the flag

Neck re-injured? Pull him.

Zach better calm down. No more turnovers. He's getting happy feet again. He knows better but it a bad habit.

A break for the Bombers - D earned that turnover

Theres the Zach pick

Zach missed Demski couple times tonight

No more turnovers please

Nice return by Parker and teams

Moments like this we really miss Janarion Grant

Argos D going be gassed by Q4

We've got them exactly where we want them.

LONG POST - Day After analysis: Evan Holm is a real find for Winnipeg. Otherwise not too much to get excited about from yesterday vs Cats. Slow start as the team seemed unprepared to play football again. Field position due to lack of a return game came back to bite us - again. Embarrassing to think Legs out-kicked Castillo who has missed a few this season. No doubt wind was a factor - advantage homie, but still. Interceptions: 2 of the 3 stupid picks you can pin directly on Collaros (Oshea put one on the receiver). You get the feeling this season that Zach, along with his panic and happy feet, has regressed. What’s going to happen next season if we let Dru Brown get away? Love Zach as a leader but you have to consistently execute on the field - especially with the best receiving corps in the league. (Yes, there were one or two drops but the only one that really hurt us was the one by Sheed). Otherwise we saw too many long desperation throws into multiple coverage that were low percentage throws that missed the target. That is poor execution and play calling. It feels like like we never know each week if we’re going to get the good Zach or the bad Zach. Other problems: spotty pass rush pressure and no adjustments to the short-mid pass game Cats successfully schemed for. Defence really got exposed there and failed to adjust. Some pressure, any pressure, on Powell might have helped but we did a poor job (as we have all year) of disguising our blitz). After the Cats stuffed Oliveira and we got behind in the score (thanks a lot Winston Rose and Demerio Houston) we were predictably forced to move away from the running bully-ball style attack which has been our bread and butter. As an armchair QB I think we gave up the run way too soon. Again, seems to be a bit of panic both in the offensive play calling by Buck and execution-wise by Zach. I noticed several times this season Willie J and Bighill have gone AWOL, why? So, to sum up, happy honker award to Holm. But the problems seem to be recurring and multiplying. Toronto and BC will be watching the film from yesterday. Any team with decent coaching will have figured us out.

i still think that was 100% a catch by Kenny Lawler that was ruled incomplete by the command centre.