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No evidence that they won't based on the past. We have moved on from many very popular players over the MOS years. We put Harris, Nichols, Adams etc. out to pasture as an example. All huge fan favorites, all supposed MOS guys. People say that MOS will bring these guys back, but history says otherwise.

I guess if you look at who we turned over an argument could be made that none were by the Bombers choice, or all were depending on whether you believe we should have paid market value to re-sign them. Bottom line we turned over quite a few positions to young players and that was part of our reload. We will reload again at a few positions to poise ourselves for the next 2-3 years. Guys like Biggie, Alexander, may be re-signed but will find themselves in diminished roles with diminished money. Bryant maybe leaves, hope not, but he's up there and the one old vet that I wish wouldn't. We will see some turnover again. DL is young, secondary is young, receivers are young, OL might be too young if Neuf and Bryant go...really I think we may be a really young team going into this season. I think we are focusing so hard on a very few guys getting up there that perspective is lost on just how many really young guys we have in our starting 24.

Both men are on expiring contracts IIRC. Not much we can do really. However, I'm not sure that McManus/Goveia are interested in moving and being 2nd fiddle to the other one. We would retain one rather easily I would think.

Argos have been very good the past 3 years. Other teams try to be good too. I fail to see what that has to do with our sustainability? We are in a small market prairie town, we start at a disadvantage. The fact we can attract and retain the calibre of players that we do is really good work by all involved. Predicting doom and gloom is completely unfounded at this point. I think we've been pretty good at getting young guys who are struggling off, but I agree on the vets for the most part. It's how we've built our room and culture by not being cut throat, but maybe we've gone too far in that regard. We shall see what kind of reset we continue on this offseason. Last year we turned over about as much of the roster as any team should in one year. This year we will likely see more of that.

It's an indication of inexperience not poor coaching. It's difficult getting a receiving corps to learn the nuances of every play, and to work in synchronicity. Even harder when at times it was 60% rookies. Buck had to pare back some layers of his offence. I would expect that if Buck is to return that we will see more details and motions added.

Imo, the first half of the season was a very patch work and young receiving corps. When they finally all got on the field and had a couple games under their belt we started seeing a good offence. Absolutely no doubt that Buck had to simplify many aspects of his receivers route running and pre-snap motion due to their inexperience. I would think that year two of this same receiving corps would see some form pre snap motion being re-implemented. I am a little curious about the Bailey mid season non-signing as well, my thoughts are that maybe there was some bridge burning last offseason?

Yea...they used to be a FA destination because they were winning. Now they will only attract flies.

McManus rarely ever comes North of the border and that is by choice. Unless a team wants a GM conducting business from Florida, or McManus suddenly gets an affinity for being here full time I can't see him moving on. Goveia, otoh, is a much better choice and would be a huge loss to Walters team.

I don't like his offence at all. One dimensional and easy to shut down. Hope we aren't seriously considering him.

Calgary has an owner that too cheap to buy coffee and muffins for the players meetings. I can't see how they could grade any better than the inevitable F they are going to get.

Been hearing that for 3 years now.

Wouldn't want Maksymic as our OC. Might as well trade BO if we did that.

This makes no sense. We have been the West division champions for those 3 straight years. There are 4 other teams that should be firing their coaches every year by your standard.

No ones is saying lollipops and rainbows. Just as this could be the beginning of the end, it could just as easily be the continuation of the dominance we have seen. All things end for sure, but that does not mean that it is now or even beginning now. CFLPA is putting out their report cards soon. That will tell a lot.

The criticism of MOS is fair game. Booch takes it way over the top though, but it's discussion worthy. Not as big a problem as it is being suggested, but still something MOS needs to work on. It is idiotic to suggest he has lost the room, or this is some kind of last hurrah for MOS. That's just an extremely polarized take.