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I like Woli as much as the next guy, but he isn't a 1000 yard guy that never got the ball thrown to him. That's just fallacy. In his first two seasons he was getting as many targets a game as Demski and for roughly the same YPC. In fact, that never really changed. Where Demski left Woli in the dust to become our 3rd receiver option was in his YAC and big play ability. Honestly, I don`t get the grousing when our 4thé5th receiving option received 4th and 5th option targets and opportunities. How can we say he was held back. He sure as heck wasn`t better than, and never will be better than, Schoen or Lawler or Demski or Brady O in the battle for targets per game. I am unclear why anyone would think Woli deserved targets over better receivers. He may get that somewhere else that doesn`t have the talent of our receiving group, but that certainly does not mean we held him back. We gave him the targets that he earned according to his place on the depth chart. That`s not holding someone back.

Year one is adjusting to pro speed for most guys, year 2 should see many guys begin bringing their game. Sucks they are doing that but I doubt it has any real impact whatsoever on anyone's roster.

It's good...but a team is only as good as it's depth. SShhhh.,...don't tell the Riders, they haven't figured that out yet.

You arguing this in bad faith. The presumption of the argument is that Woli never comes in as a NAT but an IMP with the Lions. In that case, I don't see him getting any kind of a sniff of quality playing time or touches with the Lions either. The fact of the matter in all of this is that Woli could have been a reasonably productive WR for us or an outstanding possession/TE type of receiver. One will get you more touches and yardage, the other is way more valuable beyond the stats. Woli had an extremely important role within our offence and he did it well. We did not hold him back.

Yea...we are definitely going NAT at centre one way or another.

He had Oliveira as Brady.

The Lions were put between a rock and a hard place. Rourke was ready to come back at a time that meant going over to get him. Why the Lions didn't trade Adams immediately after was their big mistake. That's a crap load of SMS sitting on the bench for the remainder of the season.

They went over because only one of their half million QBs could play at one time.

Yea....this makes no sense whatsoever. The fairest way is everyone move up a slot like in past years.

Yea...he has a point on Petey and Simonise but Woli was literally starting the last 5 games of his year 1 and held the starter position after that. As for Petey and Simonise, they did play many snaps for us and we moved on. Sometimes it is unfair to say they never got a chance when their production was pretty meh in the snaps they were given. Neither Petey nor Simonise has done much of anything since they left so it leads me to believe they just weren't good enough. When we release someone who actually produces somewhere else, the argument can be made we held them back but until then it's kind of unfair to criticize the brass for not playing inferior talent. I mean it's not like we held them on our PR until they were too old to be developed. Both Petey and Simonise were young enough when they left here that they could have shown they were being held back. Neither man did.

He had some potential that went unrealized....but yea...kind of a bit of a flyer in the 3rd round. Probably a 6th round talent really.

I fold my wife all the time, and if you win the bet you can have her....hell if you lose the bet you can have her. I wouldn't take this bet if I were you. lmao

Or maybe he came to the realization that he isn't good enough to be rostered and moved on from football. Seriously, we get your point on roster but digging in your heels about Murphy being denied roster time is a strange use of this argument. At no time did he ever demonstrate that he was better than anyone on our roster.

Walters has listed only 2 NATs on the OL starting in a recent interview, so unless he is bumping Paddy this year it looks like the plan is to go 3 IMP OL. That doesn't mean he can't win the job though and make them change their mind. My guess is that if availability of decent talent is there that our preference would be OL/Receiver in the first two rounds. As you stated, we are thin.

Wallace just improved as time went on for sure. He is going to start for us at some point.