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Yep. just about all these kids are insanely good athletes so you go with the ones who you trust to have the experience handling the situations. Unfortunately that kind of blacklists CDN developed players. The only reason Elgersma even got an NFL camp is because he has a huge arm and being a one trick pony is probably why the NFL will never look at him seriously again.

Yep and it worked for many years.

We will agree to disagree

Good, I'm glad he is back and I hope we use him better

Willie J is still a very good DE. The system takes him out of a traditional DE role.

This is going to be a thoroughly unpopular take here, but I think that Elgersma may even be lucky to be a CFL starter and that may never happen. I want to sign him, but for the life of me I don't think anyone should be thinking he's a shoe in for anything. He will need a ton of development. When I used to coach I went to several coaching clinics down in Texas and California. I got to see the QB factories up close. The kids at these "factories" begin development at age 8. By the time they are in high school they are technically better than any QB in the CIS. They get top notch development by ex pro coaches and players and even their schooling is formatted around their QB development. It's a different world of football in the US compared to Canada. Not comparable in any way. That was just one of many 'QB factories" around the USA

The second the CFL starts marketing what coaches/players in the NFL are saying about the CFL is the second the NFL sends out a memo to all teams to tell all personnel to shut up about the CFL while throwing out a press release saying that the CFL is not comparable. The NFL has spent billions and billions of dollars on maintaining their elite and untouchable status. They aren't going to let another league suggest that they are even close in level of play. even if it is the truth. I have zero issues with any person pursuing their dream even if it is a pipe dream. At the end of the day you don't want to be 50 years old wondering if you could have made it. He will be here eventually.

I think a lot of CFL fans don't realize that the CFL is viewed as league with a very high level of play by the NFL. It's a league where guys who have slipped through the cracks can get a legit 2nd chance. The UFL just isn't at that level of play because they are usually a rag tag bunch of whoever will show up so it's just really ugly football.

I would sign UFL as well. Players can opt out of their contracts for any other league anyway,

If the league doesn't fold mid year, or cheques start bouncing and you can motivate yourself to play well in a big stadium with 140 fans playing in a league that literally no one cares about. Trust me, the XFL left a sour taste in a lot of mouths a few years back when it left players high and dry when it folded. Guys literally were hitch hiking home.

A lot of people do not realize that NFL rosters are as much political as they are skill based. There is a massive bias against skill players coming out of the CIS. Trenches are trenches, the big men are big men in any league but receivers/QB/RBs coming out of the CIS are rarely anything more than TCF.

He will understand the CFL game more than almost all the Amerk QBs. The timing and speed of the game will be the issue.

Elgersma, and probably other NATs as well, would already be here if the CFL didn't have the ridiculous 3 year contract for crap money on NATs. UFL pays QBs up to 100k USD iirc. EDIT: 64k minimum contract with some making 200-400k. I would think Elgersma would be on the lower end. However, we just saw the UFL MVP sign with us to be at best 2nd string. I can't imagine that Elgersma has more earning potential that he does in that league.

I'm not against moving on either. Like I said depends on contract. IF Schoen gets clearance, wants no upfront money, and is willing to play on a prove it contract with a low base salary the risk/reward is in our favor. That being said it is highly improbable he is ready to go anyway so the whole premise is really moot.

Yea...if the best offer you get is a futures deal it isn't worth it 99% of the time. Futures guys rarely make the PR. QB might be a bit higher than other positions but still rare.