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Jeff Stoughton did call but you never answered.

Not sure what the NFL per diem and payscale is for PR but I do know that restricting our NAT rookies to 80k a year for their first 3 years is just about the stupidest thing ever. Guys signing futures contracts might as well not sign anything. There is no bonus, no commitment from the NFL team, and very little chance of making the squad.

What if those were the best players? Whose fault then? I'll take about 10 of those seasons any day of the week. We've done a hell of a lot more right than wrong in the last decade. Just gotta get back to that.

I think Hogan went into the Bomber file cabinet and accidentally photo copied Marcel Bellfeuille's playbook by mistake and didn't realize it until game 14 when it was too late to change.

Guys on 3 years are taking advantage of the guaranteed salary in year 3 provision of contracts that came into effect a couple years ago. It's why we couldn't cut ZC this year if we wanted to. He has 250k or something around there guaranteed. A two year contract is just as likely as a one year now if the player is established and paid market value. The one year deals will still be the norm for rookies and upcoming players. Nothing has really changed except the 3 year deals. Wilson on a 3 year deal likely has guaranteed money in year 3. If we cut him in camp this year we have to pay him whatever was guaranteed in year 3.

I am of the same opinion regarding QB. One of Perkins/Elgersma for QB3 and if we have both in camp then let them battle on the pecking order. If we only have one of them then we go after some CFL experience at QB2. I am fairly confident that will not be the case. Perkins is almost certainly destined for QB3 imo. I am highly doubtful we bring back Wilson so QB2 is TBD.

I was thoroughly disappointed in Walters performance last year as well and have been echoing the same criticisms. Even before the season began it was a no brainer that losing 3 all stars and replacing them with no one was going to hurt. It became even worse when the quasi talent brought in to replace couldn't even crack the roster or even make it out of camp in a couple cases. What happened to our receiving corps in the course of an offseason was just criminal negligence by a GM.

Mike Kelly says "call me and we can chat".

Possible. Without seeing the play book it's hard to say but yea could be. All QBs get happy feet when they have been under siege. It's the name of the game for a defence,

That's not true. They ranged from showing well to ineffective. Look, no coach keeps crappy rookies out of camp over a clearly better player. You never know what you got exactly until they are under the Friday Night lights but you will never convince me that the newbies we kept were kept for any other reason than they looked the best in camp to not just OSH but the concensus of all our coaching staff, scouts and management. Cut down day all of these people weigh in on that, However, I am in agreement that many roster moves were baffling sometimes. I don't post this to exonerate MOS, he needs to be much better, I post my criticism of KW because some ppl are trying to give him a free pass after doing a horrible job because they want the focus to stay solely on MOS. KW and MOS, and their entire dynamic, is a problem and one that KW ultimately is the only guy that can resolve it. HE MUST DO HIS JOB BETTER. That means making MOS doing his job better as well. People are forgetting who the bottom line is on a **** season like last year. The GM has to wear it. If it was coaching then the coach should have been fired. It's that simple. You can spread the blame around certainly for last year but no one can try and paint KW as a victim of circumstance. That's BS. It absolutely is both men and furthermore the dynamic that has developed between them. At the end of the day though, only one man has the power to change that dynamic. You can't nlame an employee for being able to run over the boss.

That was NOT a report, that was SPECULATION. There is absolutely no source that anyone can point to that suggests KW is some powerless dupe stuck in the middle. Let's be clear on that. There is nothing to substantiate any of that and therefore it is not fact, it is purely speculation. Miller is a smart businessman, that we know, Walters can be a very good GM, that we know, MOS can also be a very good coach that we know. What none of us know is why there seems to be a disconnect and who is to blame. It is just as likely that KW was burnt out and underachieving, or just decided to say F it MOS can do what he wants. That's not power struggle that;s lazy and there is a big difference in culpability.

The DE's you are referring to as having great games were brought in just a week or so before they played the final game of the season. They weren't there all year. So no, leaving them off the roster was not an issue....they weren't under contract. Agreed. However, all these shining stars that we heard about all year long ended up being duds when they eventually were played with the exception of Woodbey. It kind of tells you that they weren't on the roster for a reason.

Bo and Harris looked equally as washed two years ago. That gives me hope. Like any other QB on the planet ZC will go as far as his supporting cast allows. Bo and Harris's "resurgence" is entirely because their respective teams surrounded them with talent and protection.

I don't look at any exhibition game as an indication of anything. They are exhibition games. Preseason games have to be taken with a huge grain of salt because the 2s and 3s are also playing the other teams 2, and 3's. The Montreal game where our two DEs looked good late in the season was also an exhibition game of sorts. Montreal didn't dress half their starters and neither did we. That being said I am hopeful these young guys come in and don't regress like we've seen out of most of our top young guys over the past few years.

We We finished 4th in our division barely qualifying for the playoffs. There was no one or number of players sitting on our bench that puts lipstick on that pig. I don't buy your man in the middle theory either. It's pure speculation. If Walters and MOS were fighting every day before the GC's maybe they need to get back to that. That worked. Walters rolling over hasn't helped one iota and is a huge flaw. I see a very flawed SMS usage. That's not on Miller or MOS. I see aged out veterans being re-signed to big contracts. THAT'S THE GM. You keep saying we had the talent but we didn't because we used our SMS terribly. Pretty damn sure that neither Miller, or OSH advised Walters to let Kenny walk or let our OL fall to pieces and all the other massive amounts of actual proven talent that we lost, No coach in the world is telling his GM he doesn't want him to re-sign his all star player.