GCn20

Fine by me. If all the big name FAs go East it's the next best thing to them signing here.

I don't think that any player needs to convince their GM to throw the kitchen sink at Schoen. Teams will go after him hard if he makes it to FA. Who have we struggled to retain outside of leaving to the NFL?

No one is saying that Schoen isn't a deep threat. Just that Lawler is better at it.

Yea, Schoen is more productive and reliable than Kenny. Kenny will make the highlight reel snag at a key moment of the game. That's the choice the Bombers will be making if they can't get them both.

How many games has Lawler played the last 2 years. If your argument is that Schoen isn't worth it because of reliability then the argument has to be the same for Lawler. Now, I agree that if we can only have one then Lawler should be our pick but I disagree with your premise as to why. Lawler is just a better big play receiver, while Schoen is the more consistently productive one. Six of one, half a dozen of the other, but my personal bias is towards the big play guy. Doesn't make it the right pick but I can choose my favorite, just as you have.

It fits.

That was based on Stronson at Riderfans rumor and as everyone knows he is full of crap.

Appears that way and I get it from an overall perspective. However, I don't think this is an either/or situation SMS wise. Woli was banged up most of last year, never did play at 100% after his injury and it seemed to linger. Woli was adjudicated on the merits of his contract, health, and replaceability. We moved on. It happens. He was a fan fave because of the quality of guy he is, but as a football player he was average at best and we have a guy that looks like he deserves a lot more reps in our offence at his position playing on a rookie deal. Was Drew's contract something that was over the top? Not even remotely. Therefore, I am thinking the Bombers feel as though we have or will have better options for the money.

My bad....I missed that. Great news.

Love to get Bede if we can't get Sergio back. Monster leg.

Walters does not do anything Walters does not want to do. Osh has an opinion and Walters will consider it, and then make the moves that best fit the club in his opinion. Suggesting that Walters is Osh's puppet is ridiculous. Woli may very well offer more bang for the buck than JT if you look at it myopically, but that's not how Walters carves the pie and he is the man solely responsible for doing so. Also, there are a **** load of assumptions being made about Woli being more valuable than Jake, without any of us having a kernel of an idea as to what Walters plan is at NAT receiver or what Jake is actually being paid or what his planned role might be. Just a couple weeks ago we were all told that Osh was going to force Walters to keep an unproductive Bighill. and when anyone said maybe we should wait and see they were shouted down.. I will again ask that we wait and see how this all shakes out before making way too premature assumptions about how we should have kept this guy or that guy. Could very well be that Walters has an iron in the fire on a NAT receiver. The league is looking to correct the market on receivers. It happens every few years like that and GMs only throw obscene money when there are multiple parties willing to do so. Not seeing any of those kind of GMs at the moment.

That trim will come naturally with the reset at the receiver position that appears to be underway.

The ONLY way I could see the NFL agreeing to any such financial help for us is unfettered access to any player in our league at any time.

Woli was making 110k. League min is only 20k less than that. Cutting Woli clears 20k. Not exactly big savings there. Also, Walters has stated ad infiniti how he goes about doing his SMS by position group and not by overall. He allocates X dollars per position group and goes from there. Signing Jake had absolutely squat to do with not signing Woli. Not how Walters does his SMS, and that is based on Walters own explanations on how he manages the SMS. Exactly right.....,and the thing is that people are not really taking into account is that Woli was not very highly paid for a NAT starter. The savings on him are negligible. They will help a little bit but we aren't signing anyone of significance with those extra 20k.

Bighill yea....Woli was making 20k over league minimum so no real big savings there. His salary was not preventing us from going after anyone. They simply wanted to go another direction at receiver. Far more likely than salary dump is that the Bombers are looking at going with a crap load more 1 NAT receiver sets this year. If your hometown team throws big bucks at you then yea some players will leave to go home. However, the key part of that IF is the big bucks. We have the same SMS as they do.

No. Still makes no sense because it was never a choice between them. Even if we don't re-sign Thomas it has zero bearing on keeping/releasing Woli. Releasing Woli was not a SMS move.

I will wait and see on why Woli was released. However, the Jake or Woli argument makes no sense.

Clercius showed that he looked ready to step into a starting role. Question then becomes is Woli's price fit into our SMS for 3rd NAT receiver. The answer was no I guess. Loved Woli, mad respect for the guy, but his lack of health last year gave a guy a chance to steal his job and the guy took advantage. Sucks to see him go, but I am looking forward to seeing more KC. Think we need a steady hand on the rudder as well. JJ brings that.

Yea...thus the need for our OC to adjust. I don`t believe that Buck did that well. I`m not defending Zac, but Buck needed to adjust to Zac`s aging and he did not. If you are going to roster a 35+ year old QB then you gotta adjust as he ages and change the dynamics of what you are asking him to do. Perfect example is Harris in Saskatchewan. Guy can`t be touched without breaking so they changed how he is to QB based on that and developed a system that allows him outlets to get rid of the ball quicker while still moving the chains. If we are going to try roll out 2019 Zac every game we are not really being fair to him or the team at this point. Zac can be very productive still, but he needs an offence that evolves with him.

You don't want to stifle Zac's game too much because what makes Zac great is that he can extend a play like no other. However, he does need to settle in sometimes and take the 5 yards. It's a balancing act for sure but a lot of Zac's "bullheadedness' in holding the ball so long the last couple years was a direct result of Buck's game plan and have no outlet for him to go to.

I really felt like Buck's offence didn't do a particularly good job of spreading the field laterally. I would like to see more commitment to that. He loved to stretch the field vertically with his play calling and that was good, but we really went away from the sweeps in the run game and passes into the flats in the last couple years and that keeps the DE's and OLBs honest. I get that we ran a ton of rookies last year but backfield motion was really at a low point too.

Yep, it is really weird how they do it over there. Might be because of the immense size of their roster/PRs. Most teams already have 1-3rd string already in the system or will be drafting to get them. CFL guys are brought in as camp bodies and legit surprise if they stick. They bring in guys like Ajou who is about a 1% chance of making it but they see some tiny glimmer of upside they hope will surprise them while ignoring a guy like Schoen who can likely push hard for a ST/backup spot but that's where he tops out.

I wouldn't go that far but he's not in the top half for sure.

He did have a couple highlight reel plays on film. I didn't mean to suggest he could stick in the NFL, just offering my 2 cents on why they would look at him over say a guy like Clercius. Age being a big factor and he demonstrated some big play ability.

With Eli I think the 2 seasons away from the game really hurt his development in a big way and now kind of has hurt his confidence. His commitment to football has always been questionable, and we should know this year if he applied himself in the offseason and is coming in hungry or not. From what I saw of his play last year I have concerns whether he was 100% all in last year. I could be way out to lunch on that, and have nothing to back that up for full disclosure, just seemed off last year. We have seen him play at a much higher level than what he displayed last year for sure.