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We won't go 3 NAT receivers if we draft properly.

Yea...it's the fly in the ointment of any US expansion. Simply cannot have a league with two different roster building rules. It's why the American expansion teams could throw ridiculous money at the best CFL QBs and build their OLs etc with cheap American beef.

The Americans would not allow our ratio rules in the USA. Had nothing to do with visas. If the teams of the day wanted Canadian players they could have used them, they just didn't have to abide by the ratio rules of our league because the US wouldn't allow them.

His departure really hurt the RIders. Not because he is a great receiver per se, but they run 3 NATs and were already perilously thin for quality depth there. Now they have nothing. This could necessitate a roster flip for them and their NAT depth is mediocre.

Never had a doubt Elgersms would be here. From a career perspective it's his best move and he's not a dumb guy. Figured it would be after the UFL season but glad his VISA status forced his hand now

Riders having an inkling? Good one. This was an investigation launched months ago. They had more than enough time to read the tea leaves, and dont think for one second that the Riders released him willingly. They are an organization that must be forced to do the right thing.

This receiver will also have to have the ability, like Lawler, to go out and steal balls away from DBs because Zac doesn't have that pinpoint accuracy anymore. Contested balls are going to be a thing going forward with him and we need someone who can win the lion's share of them. We can mitigate some of Zac's decline by giving him receivers to make him look good on things like that. We were woefully inadequate at that last year. Our guys lost more 50/50s than they won and we simply can't have that this year.

If any of these guys emerge as bonafide CFL receivers I'll be tickled pink. My point in all of this is that I like that we are looking for some size and 50/50 ability in our new recruits. Whether it's Banks, Fredericson, or Receiver X, I think we really need someone of that style in our receiving corps.

He's no Lawler, he lacks that speed but as a solid possession receiver 50/50 ball guy he clearly has that game. He averaged 13 yards a reception so he can clearly get the ball when it's in the air. He's the exact type of receiver we need. Not saying he will make the team, but I like that this is the type of receiver we are looking at bringing in. We are sorely lacking this type of receiver. A team that was using Sterns as our end zone jump ball guy last year really needs someone we can throw to with some 50/50 size and ability. If not Fredericson hopefully somebody else, but what impressive hands he's got.

his highlight tape is quite impressive. A Darvin Adams type of receiver.

I'm sure they are trying, but the Elgersma hotline is not exactly ringing off the hook methinks. The guy isn't playing and there is a new draft class about to hit with a whole new crop of UDFAs that teams will want to look at. Elgersma's ship has sailed and he is still on the dock thinking it's going to circle back for him. Sad really.

I don't think we start Gabe, and that is the premise of my post. IF he starts, and I don't see where, then I will re-evaluate. I'd love it if he did show enough to get a starting spot tho.

I believe that Wallace is in a really good position career wise if he chooses to stay. He's not going to find any other OL around the league with a probable starting OG position up for grabs where he would be considered the heir apparent. I'm not sure it takes a huge increase to keep him either, he only has limited play time at this point.

Whether or not he is a capable of being a CFL QB or not is not the only factor. If he won't sign with us we can either hold his rights and make an example out of him or be forced to move him for pennies on the dollar. Either way some bad draft preparation and due diligence by the GM who took two years off.

Wbb is not wrong on his asset value diminishing if he's not with us this year. It's not about ability orpotential, it's about other teams knowing we are having a hard time/inability to get him under contract. We would not be trading from a position of strength

Buck designed his own, and borrowed heavily from Lapo, when he was OC. The room working together during the season is not the same thing. That is tweaking the already existing playbook according to what the QBs have experienced once the playbook is in use. Same thing will happen once Condell implements his playbook. They work on progressions and tweaks according to the personnel that actually make the team. Structure, formations, and some progression design is usually by way of the offensive coaching staff.

Predicting 50 years from now is an amazing feat of AI. I mean to know how rosters shape up in 2071 with players not even born yet is downright amazing.

My key point is that this year is his best shot at getting the team to commit to some development runway. If he doesn't come North this year, we cannot wait around and must pivot away from him IF we have a better candidate to develop.

That is certainly a gamble that Elgersma is taking. As I have stated in my post, Elgersma's runway certainly hinges on him signing with the Bombers. Once signed he is obligated to 3 years unless actually signed to the NFL during the offseason window. No more searching around playing the waiting game or nonsense like that. At the point of signing it is highly unlikely we cut ties with him before that 3 years is up unless he is a complete dud. However, the longer he takes to sign the more the odds go up that begin to look at alternate plans such as trading his rights etc. If in the meantime we find other guys, yep we may move on that's why my post clearly indicated that the amount of runway he will get is dependent on him signing. Not so sure that Wilson is our number 3 right now. He is there atm but if I were to guess Wilson is an insurance policy nothing more. If our new QB recruits don't crash and burn they are favorites for both number 2 and 3.

I agree that the defacto number 2 position is unlikely to end up being Elgersma if he does sign. However, whether or not he signs does decide how we approach our QB room in general. Being a NAT, how the Bombers QB development behind Collaros is significantly different between the two scenarios of him signing or not signing. The Bombers future plans will be to give Elgersma a boat load of development runway.

He went offside like 4 times in a preseason game because he couldn't time his waggle at all. He was cut. You don't have a big window as a rookie. This isn't coaching failure at all. His inability to take a running start cost him a CFL career. Edmonton tried him to give him more time to adjust and they also gave up. This is just one of those things where you get a really talented guy but if he can't wrap his head around the differences in our game then you move on from him, Not a coaching failure in any way. If he had lit up the preseason and outperformed anyone, then your point is valid, but he didn't.

We cut Lucky in camp then he was on Edmonton PR...couldn't crack their pitiful receiving corps then UFL then Minnesota.

2022 was a tough receiving corps to make...that and he could not figure out the waggle

Was Tre Ford injured when Cody Faj took over last year? It's not arguing it's just a fact that there are many times when a QB2 takes over after ineffective QB1 play. It happens a lot.

JJ wasn't in our plans obviously. I don't think his stay here went as envisioned by either side.