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Funny how we ran a primarily 4 man front that game too. Coincidence I think not.

I am not impressed at all with Younger after this year either, Didn't like his zero pressure approach at all. The first year QBs couldn't adjust to everyone dropping out into coverage but now they just carve us up. These 3 man fronts just don't work if they are done excessively. Better to disguise it like Richie used to do.

I would hope tampering has been started already. I know teams are tampering with guys we want to stay and guys we are targeting already, Pretty small community of agents so not tough to do.

It is completely pointless to even look at pending FA's right now. The vast majority will be re-signed long before FA. Many before Jan.2 so that their signing bonuses go against this year's left over cap space.

Hey, I'd love for all of this to be settled right now too. However, it is crazy to suggest change isn't coming because it hasn't been announced Dec. 1. I completely get what you are saying, and if media reports are any indication, we are working diligently to make change in our coaching staff. For now that is a good sign. On December 1st, we should be optimistic about these reports. If nothing has happened a month from now then yea...let's assume the worst.

Yes, forgotten is how we are 1000x more classy as an organization both on the field and off since the mafia came to town.

Thomas should not be given another contract unless it is a coaching position. That's not making him a whipping boy that is reality. However, as Noeller has noted it is really shitty that we on here have singled him out like we have. He has never done anything but bleed blue and gold, and yeah, he's going to play if the coach taps him on the shoulder. He is not what is wrong with the Bombers. What is wrong with the Bombers is that we never found better and didn't really try to do so.

It's December 1st, the offseason is like a week old, step away from the ledge. If this drags out another month beyotch then, right now it's just way too early. You have created a timeline in your head that is wholly unrealistic.

That seems crazy to me. The Gazette should just give up the ghost and quit pretending they care about anything but the Habs.

One can say Collaros looked off, but it is hard to say by how much. Did he look panicked and irresponsible with a lot of throws, definitely, was that him declining in skill or trying to do too much? Probably a little of both. If we can at least surround him with adequate talent and play calling he can be a whole lot better than he was this year imo. We do need to have our eyes on the prize after this season me thinks. Our offence couldn't possibly field less talent and poorer coordination than last year tho so the only way is up. I agree. Jackson's body language all season was concerning. I am not sure he wanted to be here, or was unhappy with his role.

I think we could and would need to blow the proverbial wad in FA if that is the route we are looking at to fix our team. Might be the year for us to quit sitting on the sidelines for premier players for sure. However, recruitment has to be a whole lot better than it has been the past 2-3 years for us to truly get back to where we were. It is not just our high end talent on the decline, the strength of our depth has also taken huge steps back in the past few years. I hope Danny and the boys have their new binos packed with their peanut butter sandwiches for energy. They have a huge task at hand this year.

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Pretty risky to keep the guy on. Think you just have to thank him for his effort and move on. Better for both parties really. I can`t imagine a guy being told he wasn`t good enough for the job resuming a lesser job under his replacement. I think that would eat at a person.

That depends whether he is under contract for next year or not. If he is it is odd they haven't fired him before looking to interview other people. If he is not then there is nothing unprofessional about it at all. They need not make any statement on any coach on an expiring contract. Should they do it anyway though? I would if I were leading the organization...but that's just my opinion.

Yes and no. His contract was expired but he had committed to return then changed his mind and left South. It also happened to Chris Jones going to Edmonton as well though. Pretty much every coach hired since the management cap went into place has had some of the past coaches forced on them.

Happens all the time with just about every team. That is why, for instance, Craig Dickenson had to inherit all of Chris Jones staff. Basically most HC contracts are 2-3 years, almost all coordinators are 2 years, and positional coaches go year to year. Almost every new coach nowadays is inheriting some of the last teams coaches because the management cap doesn`t allow everyone to be fired. Now, because Hogan was a rookie OC it is possible that he signed for one however no coordinators will normally even talk to you unless you are offering a 2 year deal. it`s the standard deal length for coordinators. Maybe Walters and Osh gave him a prove it contract, but it would be unusual.

It was mentioned on the forum here during the season. I never questioned the validity of the posters statement as most coordinator, nearly all, run 2 years. At any rate, lets say that he was given an unusual one year deal, you still don`t talk to anyone if the plan is to bring him back. It would be monumentally stupid to do so.

You don`t talk to other guys unless the job is open. Hogan still has a year left on his contract. It would be incredibly unprofessional to talk to other guys while your guy has a year left on his contract unless you were dumping him. I mean think about it, if your plan is to bring the guy back you show confidence in him, you don`t publically make it look like you might replace him. That sets him up to be a dead duck coach. I have ran businesses for many years and letting an employee catch wind that he might be replaced is a recipe for disaster. You NEVER do that. Normally I would agree if there was one media report, but there have now been several reporting the Bombers are looking for a new OC.

Perkins has a some mechanics issues with his throws that contribute to a pretty slow delivery but he is very mobile and big. I like it. I like him. Hopefully he picks up the Canadian game well. The knock on him is that he doesn't read defences very well, We'll see I guess.

Miller doesn't thrill me either. Red flags all around him. He does seem to be highly regarded by his peers but there is something smelly there and he would be another rookie OC in our league. Condell has a good passing game, and hiring him would signal to me that we are not going to re-sign Brady so that should be interesting.

I hope not.

Hogan's gone. It couldn't be more apparent. Several media reports from several media people and teams reporting that the Bombers have asked permission to talk to members of their staff about the job. I don't expect the Bombers to fly a banner behind a plane announcing it. They are classier than that. They are not doing this for optics. To do such a thing would be absolutely moronic and unprecedented in pro sports really.

Mike Oshea is a better coach and has forgotten more about football than any of us on this forum. I can't believe the huberus some people have here to think they are smarter than a coach who is going to go down as one of the greatest Bomber coaches ever. We sit and bang our gums, but not a single of us knows the whole picture and are privy to all the info. What we consider a terrible decision sometimes is actually the right move because the coach actually has all the info that we will never be privy too. It seems remarkably stupid to me that we sit around and pretend we know the inner workings of the club better than our HC. Wilson completed zero passes. ZERO. Don't care why. Doesn't matter. Didn't complete a ball. Every QB who plays like **** can point to a receiver dropping a ball or how close the pass was to being complete. Zero completions is zero completions. He couldn't get it done and it is wholly unrealistic for anyone to believe he could have, or JD for that matter. The Argo defence was eating our QBs for breakfast.

The lengths some people will go to here to criticize our coach. Dolegala and Wilson are crap QBs. I am glad we let go of Dolegala last year and I am pretty sure Wilson is going to meet the same fate. But yea....they would have come from behind and beaten the Argos defence. SMH. We can debate till the cows come home whether ZC should have gone back out, what is not debatable is the notion that any other of our rostered QBs would have led us to victory. ZERO CHANCE. The only players that could have won that game for us were on the D and STs. Perhaps BO going beast mode....those were our only chance at victory. Who we played at QB was irrelevant once ZC was injured. I mean honest to god, I don't know how anyone who watches football could think that JD was remotely capable of winning that game for us? Some people see what they wanna see so that they can complain I guess?

Terry Wilson did play and stunk it up.