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Notley should have made a much greater effort to snuff out any sort of implication she was in league with Trudeau. Needed to come right out and declare war on him like the UCP did and she probably wins this election going away. People hate Trudeau in Alberta more than they like Notley.

I don't want a Sankey clone at MLB. I don't like one dimensional MLBs.

There is no victim strategy, that is simply you once again attacking me as a poster because you don't enjoy the content of my posts. It's accurate. Not once have you mentioned the content of my posts, disagreed with them or argued against them. You have simply told me what shortcomings you feel I have as the person posting the content. That type of engagement isn't particularly fruitful to any debate. If you don't agree with the content of my post feel free to discuss, if you want to discuss my motivations, or other personal attacks you are not really reinforcing anything other than your disdain for someone holding an opposing viewpoint. Which is fine, but let's not pretend that it makes you some angel and me some devil. I am sickened by GOP and far left politics creeping their way into Canada. I have never denied colonial England's racism has impacted Canada however that was not the discussion was it? I am not sure why you are expecting that I should go off on tangents in a conversation about Canadian politics and then come up with a whopper like because I didn't mention England/France/Catholic church/Anglican church that I am denying their racism and the effect it had on my people. Geez Louise that's some convoluted logic right there. Why am I only defending Trudeau? I am not sure how to even respond to that. I have no idea what you are getting at. I defended him because YOU cited it as an example. This is quite the game of silly bugger you are playing...well done. You almost had me....lol.

I don't think the GOVERNMENT should have done that. The government happens to be PC. There you happy. I will not pigeon hole racism to one party. PERIOD. It removes the massive specter of systemic racism by doing that, and I'm sorry that you are unable to understand that. I have no doubt that when forming GOVERNMENT that the PCs have acted in a racist manner towards natives on many files, and in many policies, and with many slips of the tongue. I also have no doubt that any GOVERNMENT in Canada past and present has done the same because the issue goes beyond party lines and is systemic. Also, I don't remember even being active in this thread when Trudeaus' blackface occurred and if I had I would have dismissed the whole conversation as being silly and a media creation that again cheapens real racist acts. Trudeau's blackface was not racist, it was just an error in judgement imo. There....you have me defending Trudeau now....for cripes sakes.

How about debating the content of my post for once instead of just hurling accusations at the poster. It's not a particularly compelling counter to anything I've said when you just make up accusations about me but say nothing on the actual meat of the debate. It makes you look bad not me. For sure. Saddens me that these wingnuts seem to be increasingly gaining footholds into the mainstream. Some of these political conversations are just for fun for me, however, talking about systemic racism and impediments to recognizing it is not fun for me. By not recognizing that racism towards natives is systemic and does not follow party lines sets back any hope for my people. I will rail against that at all times.

I don't give a fig about England or the US. That is not my country. I am not giving anyone a free pass, I just see no need to bring them up in a discussion about Manitoba/Canada politics. You are seriously reaching almost to the point of being nonsensical. As for defending racism where in blue blazes did you get that idea from? Show me once in any of my posts where I have defended racism. That is purely YOU attacking me as a poster with completely unfounded and ludicrous accusations. Just beyond the pale of warped logic.

You are probably right in today's Manitoba politics. Like I say this ebbs and flows. Howard Pawley, Gary Doer, and to a lesser extent Greg Selinger had incredibly racist members of their caucuses and that should not be overlooked. Racism is not something new, and it shouldn't be confined when speaking about natives to the "past few years". It cheapens the depth of the conversation needed. Also, federally the Liberals are by far the worst offenders on native racism in the history of Canada and currently despite all the virtue signalling continue to oppose natives in court, and have an endless stream of broken promises and have outright misleaded native leadership at every turn while continuing to enforce the Indian Act and refuse to entertain any notion of modernization of the Act or the outright repealing of it. You are barking up the wrong tree if you think I am a Trump supporter. That man is loony and needs to go. I am NOT in favor of the far right, and am repelled by it. I just happen to think the far left is also very problematic.

Great they are the government. Like I say, where did my alternative lack context? You felt the need to label that government, and I feel that is not necessary as ALL governments have put racist policy in place, or refused to remove racist policy. This current government happens to be PC, the NDP and the federal Liberals are just as bad when it comes to racist policy. I feel that is more important to point out than pretending it's a one party problem and it all goes away if we vote right and whether you like it or not, when you label racism to one party, you are giving other parties a free pass by default.

What details were missing from context with my alternative to your post. We were talking about Canadian politics. Jeez you are reaching now. Do you want to go over the entire world? We can do that but it would take some time. I was asked specifically what political parties in Canada do I feel are most racist. I answered and your response is what was weird. But to be clear, because you appear confused, no....I do not think racism is a Canada only problem.

At various times, they all ebb and flow. If I am looking at who the most racist is I always look at who is in power because they have the ability to do something and don't. However, from a voting base it's probably and easily the far right followed closely by Laurentian elite. The Liberals and PCs by far outpace the NDP on racism, however the NDP does have racist segments in their support as well. Tbh, I was not all that offended by JTs brown face. I think that was just a stupid mistake of a costume with no real inherent racism intended.

I will tell you how I think, and it's just my opinion, that it would be better served to have said what you said. Instead of saying "closeted PC racism" a far more accurate descriptor would be "closeted government racism". It takes the party politics out of it, and broadens the net to all who are culpable.

Is that what you think I'm saying? Discuss racism for sure, discuss racist practices. However, don't label it to one party as it is systemic and putting it under one party's tent does combatting it a disservice. If you want to call out a racist policy go ahead and who implemented it. However, do so recognizing that when these policies were exacted is just a microcosm of 200 years of colonial racist policy and that everyone needs to do better. "Closeted PC racism" makes it sound like one party's problem when in fact the Liberals and NDP are grossly populated by racists as well. And don't give me this crap that he was just so happening to bring up an instance of a PC government, his intent was to label the PCs as being more racist than any other party and that is complete fallacy and does nothing to advance anyone's awareness and mitigation of racism. Yes I will call out people who get on a soap box to sell their political party over another using racism as a lever. I have seen and heard many disgusting things come out of the mouth of MPs/MLAs of all political stripes and it's time we all start acknowledging that racism is not a one party problem.

It's pretty bad for sure. Hard to believe they won. I lean to the right of the political spectrum but your Alberta PCs are way too far over to the right for me.

The only hope for the left in Alberta is if you get another Wild Rose kind of party that splinters the right. Alberta leans heavily to the right, and that isn't changing anytime soon. When even a wingnut like Smith can win a majority there isn't much hope for those that are centre-right/left.

I am NOT defending Alberta government's management of health care by any stretch of the imagination. Just stating that they won't leave if some privatization occurs. It would be for other reasons.

A third party only splits the vote.

You stated "closeted PC racism". That is singling one party out. If you don't want to be called out on hypocrisy don't be hypocritical and quit trying to pretend you weren't implying exactly what you were implying. It's disingenuous. Defending racism? That is about the stupidest accusation ever to make to someone who has been a victim of racism his entire life. Get a clue. I just won't allow any party to be singled out for racism when it runs rampant in EVERY party and EVERY party's supporters to some degree. That's just the facts. No one gets a free pass from me, and no one gets to single out another party for racism until their own party gets their's in check too. I have a feeling he will be the leader of the provincial Liberals in time.

Doctors, contrary to popular belief, are not against a private/public hybrid.

Politics rarely rewards leaders that lose elections. Personal popularity or not.

One party was named. Go back and read it. If it was meant to include all parties, or people therein, it wasn't worded as such. They just have big time cash flow problems and no avenues really to get any. I know they have been working really hard behind the scenes to try become the defacto party representing native interests but I am not sure how fruitful that is financially for them.

That will be an interesting race for sure. I know Robert well and he is as solid a poltician as there is. Unfortunately, this will probably drain votes from the NDP in what was already going to be a very tight race. I think you are going to see a very high level of aboriginal candidates that will raise some eyebrows coming out of the Liberal camp in the next few months. Noel Bernier, is an excellent recruiter for the Liberals and has been working non-stop for them.

I'm pretty surprised at the outcome in AB. Wouldn't surprise me to see Notley get pushed out now. If there was ever an election ripe for the taking this was the one. Much like here in Manitoba, there is a massive disconnect between NDP and the rural constituencies. Just goes to show that despite having wing nuts in every party, many voters still vote for the party that best presents their platform. Rural AB wants the rigs up and running full tilt and obviously didn't trust the NDP to do that.

So racism is exclusive to the PC is it? I got news for you...if you don't think their are many racist NDPs and Libs then you have never faced racism. I've seen racism from every side of the political spectrum and that is an undeniable truth. It is atrocious for any political party supoorter to get on their soap box and pretend their rich entitled white men/women are more racially virtuous than another's. As a native Canadian I can honestly say that the Libs/Cons/NDP federally and provincially let their actions, or lack thereof, speak volumes.

We shall see I guess

I'm not under rating anyone. Why is it that when someone says that player X seems poised to challenge player Y they think it's a knock on Player Y? I think Woli is a heck of a receiver, I also think BOLO will be better in time.