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Good thing you weren't there in the 60's before they got flush toilets.

Metrics....lol...you are talking about a province that loses count at a dozen. There are no metrics. There is a lippy Argos fan over there too suggesting that Walters is vastly over rated and that Stove was average at best. My goodness, that forum attracts fantasy takes on things like no other. That same poster has been saying our wheels are about to fall off since we beat them in the 2018 playoffs....lol. I would be a bit worried now if he didn't say it every year.

LOL...atta boy Lapo! That ought to sober them up about why their new OC is who it is cause if a nice guy like Lapo is tweeting about it, I can just imagine what other coaches are saying behind closed doors.

In fairness, even the other RIderfan posters tell him he is out to lunch on the regular.

But...but...Lapo desperately wanted to go there in 2019 but the big bad Bombers wouldn't give them permission to talk to him. LMAO. Guess we know why now...Lapo told Walters that whatever you do don't say yes to their request. lmao

Chad Kelley is about to become a locker room cancer if he starts or doesn't. Book it. I would trade him while he has value if I were Pinball. The man just has too much ego. Also, I would probably take a hard pass on MBT and try get Dane Evans if I were the Argos. A lot younger and you don't have to keep 14000 seats empty for MBT's ancestors. jk

I honestly hope that MBT is going back to TO. Personally, if I'm Pinball I am trying to get Dane Evans and extort the Riders on Chad Kelly. Yea....but we don't have any at the moment. I guess we could try bring Sayles back or roll the dice on recruitment.

Yea....a guy who hasn't learned how to take care of his body, his words not mine, after 6 years in the NFL is not going to learn anything now. This isn't some rookie shock going from NCAA to pro. He has had 6 years to learn habits and emulate work ethic from the very best there is, if he hasn't learned that by now he is never going to do so.

Yea....not a particularly apt comparison. Comparing our Collaros contract to the Lanier's situation is a massive over reach. Also, we didn't give Collaros top QB in the land money either on his first contract with us. I would think we will dip in a little. There are a few holes, albeit minor ones, to fill. We currently don't have a NT under contract and receiver seems thin if we stay the status quo until FA.

I just question giving out that contract to ANY player with a half season of work.....especially when he spent the last half of that season on IR over conditioning problems or a concussion depending on who you believe.

Feb 14.

The NFL has full contact practice. Ask any guy who knows football who the guys are that get their bodies blown up in practice and you will understand that it is the PR guys. They are in as good a shape, and hit as much as the regular roster guys even without playing in the game and that is a 16 game schedule. If conditioning is a problem for him after 6 years in the NFL then that sets off alarm bells to me.

Maybe he works for super cheap?

The league did not fold them last time, and won't do it this time either.

I am not suggesting that Lanier's was faking an injury but here is what we know to be certain. The Riders said he had a concussion, Lanier denied that in the media and said his body couldn't hold up because of poor conditioning. Lanier was medically cleared to play October 22nd against Calgary and he sat himself out (although he did play the season finale). Lanier's NFL window is closed. Very closed. He has zero chance of NFL return or interest. He is not playing for that reason anymore. He has been through the NFL wringer extensively. You need to quit banging the NFL drum and certainly this fresh out of college drum. Lanier was in the NFL for several years, and has exhausted his NFL window. You really need to take a look at his history. He is not fresh out of college. He is an NFL reclamation project. The guy was in the NFL for 6 seasons and has exhausted his PR eligibility, Obviously you like the guy, and he is a very good player, but you are arguing based on some assumptions you are making about the guy that are completely false narrative.

He's a really good player in 11 career games. I'm not saying he can't keep it up...but the FACT is that he has had conditioning issues, has not been able to play an entire season because of that, and is underweight for DT. This is not opinion, it is fact....a fact that even he has admitted to publically. Disruptive absolutely. Very small sample size absolutely. That's not cutting him down...that's just laying out issues with making him the highest paid d player in the league.

Good player...we don't need him. Yea...that's my thought too. Unless they circle back to him just before Feb 14, but even if they do it will be a crap offer to be a training camp body. If they wanted him for real, he'd be signed by now. The NFL acts quick when they want a player. Either way, he will be a Bomber this year for sure. Either on his rookie contract as an early NFL cut or he comes to camp and maybe we extend him.

That's how I see it too. The fact that Schoen hasn't inked anything yet leads me to believe that he will be back for sure. NFL offers have a very rapid window for guys like him. If you don't sign it right away they move onto the next guy. Each NFL teams has a dozen Dalton Schoens at the ready. It's not like he was offered a contract and given a couple weeks to mull it over and it has been a few weeks since his workouts. I believe that unless a fresh receiver signing injures himself in the next week or so and the NFL circles back, that Schoen's window has effectively closed. At this point, even if one of the NFL teams he worked out for comes in with an offer, it will be a very weak sauce TCF type of deal. NFL teams don't give players they like weeks to find another team. I am quite sure Schoen knows this as it is not his first rodeo. Going to an NFL camp as TCF, there is literally nothing you can do to make the team short of catching the coach on video doing something illegal and blackmailing him.

3 year deal. Some of his 3rd year is probably guaranteed. Pretty much rides him into retirement as a Bomber. Fair enough. SMS should go up with the new American TV deal coming.

LOL Yea...it's a fair contract for everyone. As for Lawler vs Schoen? It makes no sense to believe that Schoen has any bearing on our interest in Lawler...at least from an SMS perspective. Schoen is still under contract on a rookie deal. If we want Lawler it will be because we want him and can afford him but is not an either/or with Schoen. Although, Schoen's departure would certainly expedite our need at receiver. Schoen is under contract right now. He is not an add at all. However, he could be a very notable subtraction for sure.

Look, Harris overvalued himself for sure, and we all KNOW their was some concern about his conditioning and FIFO in his last year there. However, Demski wasn't much of a home town discount. It is just a hair below what he would have gotten on the open market imo.

Yes, but if it escalates then he plays this year below 190k because it averages 190k...that means that one year at least has to be below that if it is to escalate every year.

Lanier according to rumors sat out a few games he could have/should have played in last year. Tells me all I need to know about him. Even stated that he doesn't know how to take care of his body so wanted some extended time off. Of notable concern should be that he is a very undersized DT. They list him at 285 but realistically he isn't more than 260. That's why he only lasted 10 games in the trenches last year. He will need to have 25 lbs of muscle added to be able to live up to his contract.

Lanier is an excellent football player who deserved a big raise, however, he is not now, or has ever been, the best IMP defensive player in this league. That is incredibly stupid on the part of the RIders. It makes no sense whatsoever. We all saw what happened to Harris in Edmonton when their OL was not playing well. The guy was a disaster. The league will step in again. The Als are not folding.

Demski at 200k would be overpaid on our roster. Under the new NAT rules we are probably in the best ratio position of any team in the CFL..by quite a large margin. Therefore, without passport concerns you have to look at whether his production and value to our offense is worth 200k+. My opinion is that it is not.