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Wish we would have done more with the 1st overall, but who we drafted does not diminish the worth of that pick. I am in disbelief that anyone would not see the intrinsic value of having the 1st overall pick in any draft year. Draft picks can be busts, but I still place a ton of value on having a top 3 CFL draft pick. Who we got with that pick is irrelevant. It doesn't make the trade better for Toronto, it just means we squandered a golden opportunity. Just having the opportunity of dibs on all draft eligible players is very valuable. For all we know, if Toronto retains that pick maybe they take Cam Judge, or Geoff Gray....

Yep...Heath was an all star for us, Petermann made a lot of clutch plays and was great on the teams, Faith was a bust but his draft position directly led to us selecting Geoff Gray, even though he had signed in the NFL already. Having the freedom to take a futures pick was huge to our build. Gray is a solid starter, and was easily the league's best 6th OL before that. If we don't have one, we gotta pick more conservatively at 8 and that entire draft was a bust really. Only 3-4 really good players out of it.

1st overall draft pick, 3rd round pick, and TJ Heath is what we got for Willy. Doesn't matter how those draft picks turned out. The fact we had 1st overall allowed us to take a flyer at 8 and get Gray who is now part of our league best OL. Petey gave us excellent depth, and played some good football for us. Heath was an all star. Compared to what we gave up.....yea...a king's ransom in return for a broken QB.

What did you think of Willy when we traded him to you for the king's ransom that started paving the way towards our dynasty?

Maybe...but he panicked and completely lost composure at even the sight of a DL even when they were protecting him. I never saw that from Evans. He just made some awful decisions under pressure. Willy was a hot mess and never rebounded.

The difference between Evans and Willy is that Evans actually played some decent football last year. Once Willy got rattled it was a complete disaster. Both men got shell-shocked but Evans hasn't rolled as far down the hill as Willy did. I think Evans behind a good OL can save his career. I never thought that about Willy.

Nope. However, Cody Fajardo is Drew Willy.

It depends. If the new guy is equally as good as Prukop in SY, then yea they will stay with the new guy. If not, I can see the Bombers bringing back Dakota. That was the point of my post. The new guy, or guys, need to leave no doubt by the middle of June. I don't think that at all. It was about money. We offered him 3rd string money, and Prukop was looking at ways of making more.

The ALs had a very dominant all NAT OL. They aged out eventually but man they were good for a number of years. Similar to our OL now, but all NAT. They started showing cracks in their last couple years because AC wasn't in his prime anymore, and neither were they, but sure can't take away from what they did for many years before that. Not even remotely close. Evans led his team to back 2 back Grey Cup appearances. I still believe Evans will be a starter in this league again before long....more than likely this year at some point. He got a bad rap last year imo. He put up some pretty decent numbers really except turnovers, and that was more a function of having to push the ball downfield playing from behind. Don't care what kind of QB you are if you are perpetually forced to abandon the run, push down the field because the clock is the enemy, you are going to rack up yardage and turn over the ball at a much higher pace. Jennings just threw 50/50 balls up all over like Fajardo and hoped his receivers would come down with it. Worked for a while until teams took everything underneath away and dared him to put balls down field. Then he was exposed. Evans has every throw in the book. Guys like Fajardo and Jennings were one trick ponies.

Short term Evans would be far better in a backup role for us at that price point, however, chances are Evans only plays for that price for one year. His experience and any kind of positive play this year will have some team looking at him with either bigger bucks or maybe even a starting role. If he played for us, guaranteed he would play well with our weapons and OL. He would be a hot commodity come next offseason and we would effectively have lost Brown for one year of Evans. That being said, I still might have made that trade if it was there. Very tempting. I think Evans could do well with our OL and receivers if we needed him.

The QB is going to have to impress because I am almost certain Prukop's plan is to come back to the CFL immediately after the USFL season.

I just feel like the % of draft picks retained is such a red herring overall. Take us, who had home town guys we didn't draft want to come home that kept us from retaining our own picks because they were too good to be unseated. Or the loss of 3 high picks to the NFL, or having such overwhelming depth that we can allow a couple OL draft picks to go elsewhere because we have cheaper excellent options.... it creates a skewed stat. One would have to be taking a few blows to the head to not see that Winnipeg has been drafting and retaining players, not just NATS, at a very high level....probably the best out of all teams in the CFL over the past 4-5 years.

For sure. Every team drafts 7 rounds, some team need that many some teams don't.

Can't say I blame him. He really didn't have any other option that could lead to a starting job any quicker except Montreal, which was a big unknown at the time.

Great. So for the past 6 years our NAT talent has been so strong and stable that we have been able to cut a lot of guys, and have guys move onto the NFL. That's what I get out of this kind of useless exercise. Sounds about right as 2017 on our NAT talent was at or very near the top of the league. Like I stated earlier, in order to retain a high amount of draft picks a team has to have players they are willing to replace.

It does matter. Teams will ebb and flow on draft pick retention based on need as one factor. Are teams retaining players because they are good or are they retaining them because they can't get anyone better. Is this a 5 year sample or a one year...very important.

Great....but again, there is absolutely no context to discern what he is talking about. One year? Last year? Last 5 years? Last hundred years? Just a cryptic stat that means absolutely nothing. Just a waste of everyone's time who had to look at it really. Only variable that matters is who has the best NAT talent as it can come from many avenues. Drafting is just one. Teams who retained 50% of there draft picks in say the last 2 years may have done so because their cupboards were bare. Whereas a team like ours only has a very limited amount of NAT roster space to be contested. Stats like Ferguson's one you submitted really don't tell us anything of value just that some teams signed and kept more of their draft picks than others. Why that happened is significantly more important and this context should be added to any stat like the one above. We have signed most of our draft picks over the last several years, many of them were not good enough to be retained because the bar is a little higher here and many left after a few years because they were too good for this league, and still others are out there unsigned because they were futures picks. Even though we retained (over an unspecified period of time) 27% of our draft picks, our drafting success is at the top of this league imo. We literally created a juggernaut of a team with no small part due to great drafting.

Sayles NFL scouting report and Goodson's are very similar. HIs NFL scouting report states that he is not particularly good in the bull rush. He's got the size and body type so maybe they are talking at the NFL level, but his scouting report reads very similar to Sayles. EDIT: Just looked at Stove's scouting report as well to compare. All 3 guys have almost identical scouting reports....lol. Therefore, I will discount my use of scouting reports as it seems every fringe guy appears to have the same thing written about them. lol. On body size alone, he is a much bigger load than Sayles so hopefully he is more Stove than Casey.

Yep, it's tough when your draft picks play so well that they go to the NFL, or price themselves out of the market for us. Lucky for us players want to be here so replacing the excellence we lose does not hurt us as much. Kind of useless though without context. What draft? How many drafts? Equal number of picks for all teams?

Harris's dinking and dunking will depend on how close his defence can keep him in games. If teams are up by two scores at half time he will have to attempt to push the ball downfield, when that happens he is going to be throwing interceptions or taking sacks.

Yea, my wife worked as an Assistant Deputy Minister at that time, and it was chaos. Every problem just had money thrown at it without any plan to actually resolve the problem. In her experience, 10 people would enter the room with 10 bad ideas and they would debate each of them and walk away without a single better idea. There was no interdepartmental cooperation at all....still isn't. so even if a great idea came to light if it involved interdepartmental cooperation it was essentially DOA. Doubt that has changed all that much either. My wife who is an expert in her field, finally left the civil service a few years ago out of frustration over the amount of time and resources that were wasted on the bureaucracy of public service. Combined with a pay scale that has fallen far behind the private sector, and the actual satisfaction of getting things done she now very happily and successfully has taken her skills to the private sector. All of the public sector is experiencing the same kind of brain drain for many of the same reasons.

IIRC, Selinger was a heavily recruited and somewhat reluctant politician who took a lot of coaxing to get into the political arena.

Goodson looks to be a Casey Sayles type of NT. Not the biggest dude but very agile for a 300 lber. Will be nice to see what he can do.

No argument from me on that. Just pointing out that governments have shelf life. Yea. his own caucus saw him as weak and that is not a good thing for a political leader.

Harris plays great against the East. Not so much against the West. That is time proven. I don't doubt that an Argo fan would think he is the bees knees...you are one of the only teams he regularly and historically shreds.