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I am guessing this quote is from Rider Stronson?

Of course that is true, for ALL coaches...even Lapo. I don't give two figs whether Collaros, the two time defending MOP of our league, is having an off game or not IF we are going to call a play where a QB is taking a shot down the field at that point of time then it is incredibly stupid to not have ZC be the one taking that shot. We have watched ZC have poor games before only to make an incredible throw to close out his opponent. For that reason, I simply refuse to believe that this was the primary read for that play and maintain that Prukop made a terrible read and decision.

Twitter has lost money 6 out of the last 8 years and hasn't seen a profitable Q in almost 2.5 years. Not saying that what he is doing with Twitter is right, but it wasn't some golden goose that he ran into the ground either.

Maybe they should put the stadium there and have games at noon. Someone get Ambrosie on the phone....

Hush up you....you are not that far behind...lmao.

Consider this, the same nutbars saying this at Riderfans are also saying we made a mistake signing Collaros to a 3 year deal. I just find it rich that a team without an OL, or QB would be criticizing a team for extending an MOP QB, and a CFLPA all star OG. Their GM would be tripping over his left nut to sign any of the players we have extended thus far.

Yep who needs players like Biggie, Neufeld, and Jefferson and eventually Bryant, and Hardrick. CFL all stars....who needs em. That is not even debatable. He is a top 5 player in this league outside of QB. Willie is in his prime, Neufeld and Bighill were CFLPA all stars. It's stupid commentary on their end. Even if they regress they are still better than most teams will field this year at those same positions.

The 2nd receiver was poor, unless this was a designed run/pass option and the receivers went in scramble mode when Prukop didn't run, but we don't know that so let's assume the 2nd receiver was a mistake. Even so, coverage was tight on Ellingson and the read should have taken him away from that throw, on that down, at that stage of the game. Prukop forced it, as a lot of 3rd stringers tend to do when the coach gives them the green light to throw.

Even a FG at that time changes everything. Makes it a two score game. Toronto has to approach it completely differently, it make the play clock the enemy for Toronto who then needs to drive the field in a much quicker manner with a green QB. I have no doubt in my mind that if that drive ends up in points we win the game. So you want to take the ball out of his hands on a long ball and give it to your 3rd string QB, who has thrown a handful of passes all year, because ZC isn't sharp. I am no professional coach but there is absolutely no one on my team I want throwing that ball other than Collaros, and if Collaros can't for some reason, then I want Brown doing it. Zach for sure would have made a better read, and a better throw. There is no doubt about that in my mind.

Exactly. The guy has zero speed and zero ability in coverage. He can't even spy a QB. He got a crap load of tackles because he never vacated the box, and teams ran at him because you could count on good average doing so. Wilson will definitely help. He has DB speed at WIL and will narrow Biggie's coverage area. Look at what Dean did for Sankey this year, kept him from being totally exposed for his inability to go sideline to sideline. With Biggie, he can still go sideline to sideline but not having to do so will really open up ways for Hall to use him in the blitz or dropping into coverage and allow Biggie to zero in between the tackles on run plays.

Fair enough. He will easily get 200k and deserves 200k. Good possibility he gets more. I am thankful we didn't go after Sankey. He has high tackle totals but take a look at rush yards surrendered by the Riders per game, and avg yards per rush. They ranked near the bottom of the league. When your MLB leads the league in tackles and you have those stat lines it means one thing, opposing offences chose to go after you because you are surrendering too many yards. Tackle totals are such a red herring sometimes. Also, Sankey does not have the game to go outside the box. He is completely one dimensional. Larry Dean absolutely saved Sankey from being completely exposed as the fraud he is.

I don't mind the play call per se. We had Prukop out in the flats with only a DE, with a bad angle to him, to beat one on one for a big yardage run. Prukop should have tucked and run. I just don't understand why he didn't. He easily rips off a 10-15 yard run...maybe more. I honestly still lay this on the feet of Prukop, unless there was a bust in coverage he should have been running. It is how the play was designed.

At least he would be honest. That's something we haven't seen in a long time.

Because it is us that empowers this stupidity.

Not sure why you would think that? Our politics on all sides of the spectrum are a cess pool and have been for quite some time.

It's possible for sure. I doubt Demski wants to leave the Bombers.

The difference in passing attempts between 2019 Streveler and 2022 Prukop is not even comparable. It was a stupid play call if that was a designed pass. Prukop had less than a handful of passing attempts all year. Not the same, with the exception of maybe the element of surprise....even then....weak call if that was planned. We were moving the ball with the run, and didn't need much for what could have been a game winning TD. A better comparable is if we would have sent Sean McGuire out in 2019 to try the kill shot. It would have been as non-sensical as Prukop doing it this year.

Do not wait. Manitoba is about to lose one of it's two knee replacement surgeons to BC.

Only two scenarios make sense in my mind as to why Prukop hit the field for anything more than short yardage and perhaps a gadget play. One, is that Zach Collaros was banged up a lot worse than we were led to believe, and all week long they knew it and prepared a passing package for Prukop. Or two, as I stated earlier this is a run play with a pass option IF our guy is so wide open you gotta take the shot. I don't honestly believe the Bombers were trying to be too cute. I think that something led them to putting Prukop in, maybe out of necessity, maybe to run....but I doubt that Prukop made the correct read on that play. If this was a designed pass than Buck and OShea would have to be incredibly stupid not to have ZC being the one throwing it. I don't believe that Buck or Osh are stupid.

The stadium build was a complete fiasco from day one. Eyebrows were raised by a lot of Manitobans, not just conservatives, about the cost over runs and delays. Unfortunate because it did lead to some cut backs as costs began to spiral out of control. Without turning this into a political thread, it was a completely mismanaged project. Glad we ended up with the awesome stadium we did though.

IMO, this is a run play with a pass option. Prukop was supposed to take a look downfield and if his guy is wide open then go for it but if not use the legs. He went for it and that was the biggest mistake on this play. Execution was brutal for many reasons. I don't mind the play call because I believe that Prukop was supposed to run unless Ellingson was wide open and clearly he wasn't. Bailey running the wrong route made the read even worse.

Nope, the poster who started that thread does not seem to realize the value of culture to a player, In his defense, neither does his teams coach or GM.

Awesome man, I wish all Rider fans were like you. That is not to say that there aren't more, they just aren't the ones we hear from and don't sweat your team too much, they have a committed fan base and the money to turn things around once they get their heads out of their butt. Realistically, the Bombers and Riders are head and shoulder above all the teams in the league in their ability to be competitive year in and year out. Like anything else it just takes the right people at the top.

I am confused. Riderfans said that our loss Sunday changes everything and that we would experience a mass exodus of all our good players in FA? How can we be extending all stars? Stan has re-upped several times here already. If he wanted to leave he would have done so a long time ago. The only way Stan isn't back is if Stan isn't offered a contract and the chances of that are zero.

Last week you were the enemy Bluto....sorry for the rough ride you got when you came here last week. lol. Congrats on your team winning. I pathologically hate the Riders though....darn...