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How much of this soap opera does the management allow? It's one thing to be an ass clown on the field, but when you are being an ass clown to the club's own employees wouldn't/shouldn't that be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I can tell you with 100% certainty that a player would not disrespect the Bomber staffers without getting his walking papers minutes after. If the Riders allow this as an organization they really need a complete reset from the top down.

If that's a question that seriously needs to be asked then I have to wonder where the Riders are as an organization right now. I get the feeling that JOD, even though a few years removed from playing, would give Marino all he could handle.

Osh took the high road because, unlike some fans, he fully realizes that was just one of a hundred plays in a game and wasn't the difference in winning or losing. I highly doubt MOS even had a chance to see the play with his own eyes on replay when he was interviewed. I doubt he feels the same way after watching it. His team won the game so I doubt he cares about it now either.

I am not sure where he got the information that O'Shea was told by the officials that it wouldn't be overturned? From all accounts, O'Shea didn't believe it would be overturned, that in no way makes it the correct call. It just means the chances of it being overturned were not there because the CFL has been reticent to do so on RTP calls. There is a big difference between not wanting to challenge because the chance of it being overturned are small, and acknowledging that is was the correct call which to my knowledge MOS has never done....because it wasn't. I am super unclear as to why TB believes that MOS not challenging means he believes the call was correct? I mean really a blind squirrel could see that the RTP call was grossly incorrect. Every bit as egregious as the non-fumble incorrect call. Both plays had impact on the outcome of the game in their own way. Neither call resulted in one team winning/losing a game they shouldn't have.

For sure. TB likes to think he is being picked on, when really it is just that his arguments are so often flawed that illicits the responses.

Not to mention his pension status. The NFL owners are known for collectively blackballing guys like him. Desjarlais is not having a particularly strong camp from what I have read, but we shall see what his coaching staff thinks of him vs the self declared experts.

That's exactly what is so bothersome and tedious. The continual search for reasons to discredit our team's success has robbed him of his credibility when making his arguments. I am pretty sure he takes on the role of devil's advocate for his own amusement, and that is fine, every forum needs a foil. If he truly believes in his arguments though it must be tough to be a sports fan then. If you can't find joy and hope in the past 3 seasons of Bomber football and see nothing but negatives still.....I don't know if I'd bother continuing on.

Unfortunate situation for the league. Hope is resolves well.

I just think that Robertson, Marino, AC are all very over rated. Their sack numbers are inflated due to the time their defence spends on the field. Riders LBers are top notch though. Even with a beat up secondary, the Stamps group is far better than the Riders. Those guys are terrible.

I think that the CGY front 7 is very comparable SSK's to be honest. They generate great pressure, and have a really good LBer corps. SSK pumps their own tires but there are some really good front 7 guys in CGY. The RIders may be a fraction better on their front 7, but Calgary's secondary is MUCH better than the Riders. Overall, I think CGY has the better defence, but even if it is a saw off, or CGY is a fraction, and it would be a very small fraction, not as good the disparity between the two offences is enormous. A giant chasm the size of the grand canyon difference there.....and we swept CGY.

It is definitely a money issue. Stern could not get those handling the estate of Spiegel to continue to float cheques for the Als and he isn't a big enough fish to do it himself. At the end of the day, the Als were needing new ownership no matter what. Unfortunate that Spiegel passed just after buying the Als, but this day was coming by all accounts.

That is true, and we did it just by running the ball down their throats. I am now remorseful that O'Shea didn't send out the FG unit, get 3 more points, and give the contrarians nothing to talk about.

The ref obviously didn't feel it was close. You don't just let every play continue because you may have gotten it wrong. FACT: The Stamps had over a half of football to overcome the 3 points they lost. FACT: They couldn't do it FACT: We don't know how this game turns out if the call was different. Plenty of ifs and buts could have went the other way too and maybe we have a 20 point lead going into the 4th Q. Just a losers game trying to suggest a first half FG was the difference.

For sure. A botched call in the first half is not the reason the Bombers won, nor was any other botched call. Did it change the game? Sure...at the time it did, like any other play changes a game, but at the end of the day it is one play with over a half of football left to play. Calgary had ample opportunity to try and win but couldn't score on us when it mattered. That's the bottom line. The way our offence was playing I am fully confident we would have driven the field if necessary at the end.

Fans can complain about calls until the cows come home but blaming them for a win/loss is stupid. Ifs and buts are for losers, whiners, and contrarians.

Precisely, we just finished the season sweep of a team who has, BY FAR, the best running game in the league...with better QBing, and infinitely better OL play, and is equally as good or better defensively....yet we are supposed to be scared of the Riders? Makes zero sense. Not sure what Bugsy is smoking. The only way the Bombers lose is if the Bombers beat themselves. LDC is pencilled in as a loss on my Bombers pre-season schedule every year. It is their Grey Cup. That being said, this year we are a far better team than them.

Calgary got elite RB, and QB play last week. We won. Not sure why you think a watered down Regina version of that would place us in "big trouble". That is some pretty convoluted logic. BC had almost zero offence because their QBing was trash. Our offence will not give the Riders a chance at finding their rhythm like BC's did last week.

No kidding eh? The what if game is just a complete straw man argument. Just a nonsense take, to consistently suggest a team with a 10-1 record had the game handed to them by the refs, by luck, or because the other team didn't play well. I'm not even going to be civil about it, because it is completely moronic and really grating after awhile. We won last night because we were the better team and outscored our opponent. FULL STOP.

I have watched the CFL for over 40 years now. I have seen hundreds of games decided by one score or less. I can count on one hand the number of those games where a different call made, or a call missed, by the ref would not have POSSIBLY changed the outcome of the game. If ifs and buts were coconuts we'd all be living in Hawaii. There is nothing more stupid or aggravating then someone blaming a loss on the refs, or a win being discredited for the same. That's just a fact of life of sports. If you want to win make damn sure you put up enough points that the refs don't matter. Just a fool's errand to go searching for a call here, or a missed call there, in the CFL of all leagues. Good lord.

Or we could have had them punting 2 plays later and it made no difference at all. For everyone who says the holding call lost them the game, that simply isn't the case. There was no guarantee they were scoring points even if the call wasn't made.

You can challenge roughing the passer, both for or against, in the CFL.

If you couldn't hit a QB in the shoulders, there would almost be nowhere left to hit.

There is absolutely no rule in the CFL rule book, past or present, that penalizes a player for hitting a QB in the shoulders. I challenge you to find even one instance of a CFL ref calling that except in error. There is absolutely no way on god's green earth the refs got that one right. You are out to lunch on your take even by your normal bad take standards. TB is absolutely 100% wrong on that. It was just a bad call, probably looked different from the refs angle. The bigger crime was that command centre, or an O'Shea challenge, didn't overturn it. However, I do believe it was being ruled an incomplete pass so that may have been Osh's reasoning.

We could have challenged it but didn't. Not sure why?

I doubt it, but McCrae has definitely earned some time in the offence I would think.