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Yea, Woli will never let that happen again tho.

Just a typical bust in assignment during a pre-season game. It sucks but guys aren't all the way back yet.

I agree. There have been a lot of outstanding first year players over the past several years here. Yep coaches are hired to be fired....but it would be a massively huge leap to think that time is now for O'Shea. Flaws and all, he is still the best coach in the CFL right now and even though we have lost the last 2 cups, we are the best in the west for the past 4 seasons. When we start losing then I hope the Bombers take a look at whether he should be kept on but until then it would be a really stupid move. Guys are still running thru walls for him and winning in the process,

I thought his ball placement was really good as well compared to 2019. Granted it was all short game stuff but he was zipping it into some tight windows.

I agree with your assessment in general and I was disappointed in hindsight as well. I would like to see MOS manage the roster better as well. You are right he has to wear that, I am simply pointing out that some of these decisions can be very hard to make and a coin flip as to whether they turn out well or not. They are not as black and white in decision making as they appear to us, the fans. You make a valid point on having contigencies on these tough decisions tho.

Chris Smith, was unspectacular in the KR/PR but he did field nicely and went downhill every time. I believe that is who you were thinking about. The kick coverage is always lousy in the preseason for all teams that go into the game with the number of rookies that we did. I am not concerned by that, and expected that. I don't think anyone grabbed the returner spot or can be considered a favorite at this point.

I don't think too many people will/should tell MOS how to coach. There is far more things to consider when choosing a lineup than who the best player is at X position. That is only part of the equation, and unless you've coached you will never understand that. MOS either went with his gut, or trusted some guys too much, or even went with some vets that were borderline and hoped they could play through the pain based on what he knew about them. He may also have gotten some bad info from his trainers regarding these players. None of us know the reasons for these guys playing, we can speculate, but that's all it amounts to really. At the end of the day, MOS has to not only balance his roster, he has to balance his culture and locker room and sometimes that means making choices that seem odd to those that don't have all the info.

Tre Thomas, Ayers, Garbutt, and Rivers especially impressed me yesterday. Small sample size but they balled when the lights were on.

You guys both have very polarizing takes imo. I would not want any other coach and am fully aware he has faults. So does every coach. The good outweighs the bad with MOS. What he is able to do as a coach overall is still very good work. It is annoying to see his stubborness on roster management play out year after year though. This is a problem he has had since day one, and isn't likely to change, but I hope it does.

MOS is as responsible for our Grey Cup losses as any of the players. None performed to expectations in the last 2 Grey Cups. Coaches and players made mistakes that prevented the wins. The group, as a collective, let us down. Yes, Kuale revealed that early on.

Lot of guys on this forum with very good takes on our 3rd down game. I have learned a lot and have been given a lot to think about from many posters not on your list right now. Some really good knowledge on this forum as a collective, but thank you for the compliment. I think more than anything your list is a pretty good collection of the posters that are the most opinionated....lmao...jk guys. Bacon gets my vote every time. In my experience, it is a little of both. However, a play call is a play call. Guys don't stop running unless they are given the option to do so within the play call.

It was a very disappointing performance for sure. I am hoping it was just nerves got him and that he will get a 2nd chance in the next game and perform better....but I can totally understand if the Bombers just cut him loose now.

I thought his throwing was good too.

For sure. Their 1st stringers managed a FG against backups, and their 1st string D couldn't handle Strev and the 2nd and 3rd stringers I agree. We had almost zero vet presence today and still competed well

They should be really concerned that their 1st string O and 1st string D laid giant eggs against our all rookie lineups. This may have been a win for the Riders but they should not be feeling good about it. Their first stringers were not good.

Lauther might be cut too..lmao

New punter might be cut before the game is over

Wilson not doing much eithet

Bombers love his skill set. Might be a PR guy

Less red tape tho as Booch takes PayPal too.

Or they are not liking what they see behind Dukes Magri was a rising star in the CFL. Sure the Argos have had past success, Magri was an integral part of their current success. He is the second scout they lost this year too.

Vince Magri, AGM and top talent bird dog for the Argos, is gone to a scouting job with the Bill's. Massive hit to the Argos front office. One of the league's top scouts. The blows just keep coming. Karma? Stiggers, Oakman among others and the really good past 3-4 CFL drafts that were the fruits of his recruiting.

I really hope we play the best players we possibly can under the ratio rules. Whether that is 7 NATS or 10. Couldn't care less how many we start if they are our best option. If they are not that's when we need to start counting how many we are using.

I'm thinking just precautionary

Also, Ford is not a raw rookie. He was in our system for a year before leaving. He should be way ahead of the rookie curve.