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Wear that Brock jersey with pride and don't forget to numb the pain you will witness tonight with a raft of beers and nachos. Some of us will give you a silent thumbs up as we tuck tail and eat and drink the crap our wives make us as they try to turn us into the men they think we should be.

I am not skinny, I am not fat, although my BMI would probably put me at slightly overweight. I just wanted to pipe in and say that without fat football fans, this and every other football team, would have a pretty hard time filling the seats. We can sit here and grouse about how irresponsible these people are for eating nachos and dogs at every game but instead I will give them all a great big kudos for taking the time and money to come out and eat substandard food watching a substandard club. I would have thought that a football forum could find a little more love for a guy who is over 300 lbs. Even the quinoa and steamed chicken crowd here would be po'ed if we signed a 250 lb lineman.

Here is the big misconception that people are trying to sell. This myth that 6 more starts will suddenly make him this great QB is unrealistic imo. He has started a few games now and has not shown any ability to even come close to winning. It's not like he is tantalizing us with 350 yard games but just barely coming out on the short end of the victory column...his stats are well below average and what will change in 6 games from now? Will he suddenly learn how to throw accurately on the roll out? His flaws are not from a lack of understanding of the game. By all accounts he is making the right reads. His problems are mechanical and that doesn't go away in a half season or with more starts. Most QBs who exhibit poor mechanics are never able to fix them.

What has he shown that makes him deserving of future starts? I am not being sarcastic, I just don't see what others are seeing in him. I have not seen anything, in my mind, that shows he may be close to being a good QB. Please explain what you are seeing that makes you believe this guy is even close to being a consistent starter in this league.

Elliott sucks. He would add no value to our team at all other than a very marginal improvement at QB. I do agree with you that I shake my head in disbelief at the complete double standard people are passing off between Goltz and Elliott though. Goltz and Elliott arrived at around the same time and are almost equal in experience level. For some reason people are suggesting that more time would make Goltz this great QB, yet when the subject of Elliott comes up they believe he had his chance and sucked. They are half right I suppose, but you can't have it both ways. If you are going to lobby for patience with Goltz then you shouldn't be knocking Elliott in the same breath....they are literally almost equal in experience level. Personally, I don't believe either of them will ever amount to anything in this league.

Who cares what some random fan thinks? Penton retweeted this for some unknown reason. Couldn't find a football guy saying anything bad I guess, so he's digging up fan quotes. What does slow for CFL standards mean anyway? I could outrun some of the best receivers this league has ever seen. This guy is getting his panties in a knot now too, because somebody on Twitter asked "are you a scout?" and I replied that no, he was not. Brandon Logan ‏@BrandonWLogan @mike_wpg @3lue_n_6old @PentonKirk Nope, but I've followed the Rams for years. Did any of you guys know who MSW was before today? Thought so Well I've followed the CFL for many years and I think a 4.35/40 IS fast enough for the CFL. Betcha a hundred dollars that Penton won't tweet that and I betcha I know more about MSW than Brandon Logan knows about the CFL.

I think you are confusing non commital with lukewarm. Burke stated clearly that he would like Vega back and hopes the "right deal" can be worked out. That's why they are saying he was non-commital. Imo, that's not being non-commital....that's part of negotiating.

I disagree completely, now is exactly the time to do something drastic. Changes are necessary. The Bombers can make big moves and not necessarily mortgage the future of the team. It's just gotta be done smart.

Ok..that's true enough, let me put it another way. Miller will tell Burke that losing will not be tolerated under any circumstances and that the grooming the next QB excuse will not save his job if the losses mount. Although, we all know this was the card that Mack was hoping to play not Burke. Burke will try to save his job and he will go back to Buck.

I would rather see our new GM select the coach he wants and then that coach select the staff he wants. No other chain of hiring works for a football club. Burke will get fired...it's not really a matter of if but when because he's not a good coach and the incoming GM will want his own guy.

I'm not ready to write it off quite yet but it does seem like a longshot that we will be a contender. I think a playoff berth is very doable though.

I have a feeling that a big part of Mack's firing was his meddling with the coaches. I don't think there is an appetite at the board level for this to be a rebuilding year under Goltz. I have a feeling that we will see Buck again because Miller will give Burke a mandate of win right now.

No surprise there. Rider fans tend to see things a lot differently than anyone else when their team is playing.

i suspect that Miller, Walters, and Burke are going to have a very long chat about our QBing. I, also, suspect that after all is said and done we will be actively trying to trade for one. I don't see Miller as the type of guy willing to toss the season away on Goltz or Buck. I, also, believe that if Walters wants any chance at all of being considered for the GM job that he will have to show he is not an acolyte of Mack's. Expect changes to our roster....big changes.

Sounds to me like we have a good chance of seeing him soon.