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Jake needs to go. There are others as well.

Absolutely. Wilson coming back from the NFL would help immensely, and some other tweaks here and there. It's not a lost cause by any stretch of the imagination. Vaughters is not playing very well, and of course our interior DL is weak. We need help there. Not sure we have the personnel right now. Time for an airlift. Not gonna pin any of it on the Safety.

I've seen more busts in our coverages this year than in the last 5 years combined. Our D is simply not playing like they should. We predicate on a ball hawking shut down secondary. We don't have that right now.

yea...the bright side is that the playoffs don't start at the beginning of July. Lot can change from now to then if we don't show improvement.

If we play like we can we will be fine. If we play like country club princesses like last night it will be a long season. If we don't see more out of our team than what we got last night then clean house and start the rebuild.

I won't jump the gun on one game, especially given our performance prior to bye weeks over the past several year, however it is pretty evident that our coaches and players all need a swift kick in the ass after that fiasco last night. The lack of execution and piss poor game plan is on the coordinators not OShea. However, it is OShea's job to make sure that his team plays with effort and for 60 minutes. It is also the players jobs to be mentally prepared and ready to play. Everyone took a **** last night. Coach, coordinators and players all need to do a lot better.

Dickey beat the brakes off MOS by having a team that was far more prepared and interested in playing last night. Out schemed is on Younger and Hogan who had absolutely horrid game plans and total lack of adjustments throughout the game.

Inexcusable lack of focus and preparation. Every coach and every player should be embarrassed. When veteran guys like Patty Neufeld are completely turned around and lost on a play it tells you all you need to know about how prepared this team was. The country club atmosphere that seems to have developed after a great start needs to be nipped in the bud right now. It was horrible execution by every position group all evening and that simply will lose you any game you play against any opponent. I don't know how this team continually seems to look so flat prior to bye weeks. Time for the coaches and locker room leaders to change that narrative.

Yea, if only the BC crowd would stay beyond the pregame concert they would really be on to something.

I agree on Jake and Kolo. Disagree on TJ and Kramdi. Also, at no point did Osh say he thought JJ was better than TJ. He said the armchair HCs think that.

Who says J. Jones is better? It's not tugging on OSheas nuts to ask that question. It's not just Osh...it's Younger, it's Hall as well that don't share your assessment. Are you seriously suggesting you are a better talent evaluator than these 3 men? Evan Holm and Redha Kramdi would have been cut early in their careers if it were up to you.

Tony Jones has played very well this year...but J.Jones is younger and has a higher ceiling MAYBE...seems to be the crux of the argument. Just complaining for the sake of complaining imo.

Jones balled out last night. If your biggest complaint about TJ is that our MIKE is not great in pass cover then I think you guys are really reaching.

Tony Jones and Zach Collaros were both great last night. Eat your crow like a man.

I think Tony Jones and Zach Collaros just force fed some posters around here a big old helping of crow

For sure....I just know that when I played and the HC came and asked you if you would consider learning LSing that it was never a good sign. lol In this day and age, knowing what we know about concussions in football, I would put a mandatory 10 day evaluation period if I were the commish. It would suck, but player safety has to be paramount. Especially for guys with concussion histories. At any rate, we all thought Harris was fragile, and we were all right.

That may not be the worst thing. Not many teams will roll out their starting C as LS. Maybe it's the plan coming down the road. Dare to dream.

I don't mind our receiving corps, but Hogan needs to play them to their strengths. We've got Sterns and Demski that should be in motion constantly giving defences fits and we pull out a jet sweep but give it to Wheatfall? Sometimes I think we try put square pegs in round holes. Let Demski be Demski and mix his usage, use Sterns for YAC, let Wheatfall and Schoen take the top off, and let Clercius settle into Woli's old role of outlet/possession receiver. He's done that quite a bit over the past few years. They will blitz the SAM or S off the edge and drop Willie back into the secondary. It's been effective. I really think that as the season goes on we will be seeing more and more of these young Canadians allowing us a 4 man IMP front on passing downs. Just can't rush them.

His cap hit is $2M. All bonuses can be deferred to next year at the team's choosing. I would think the Jets will build their roster based on the base and push whatever bonuses he attains to next year when there is a big jump in the cap.

No matter what JT makes in bonuses this year his cap hit is $2M. All bonuses can be deferred to next year when the cap jumps by 15 million.

Tony Jones is currently the better MIKE than J.Jones whether some poster here want to hear it or not. J.Jones has the brighter future, but he isn't there yet. The only way some people are going to be happy with roster decisions is if everyone gets to dress on game day like preseason.

I'd love to see Bailey get some development time, but I really don't see the big deal if we go Weitz over him. Anyone saying that one has more value than the other to our roster isn't really basing that on anything other than opinion. We haven't seen either play enough to know.

You can't possibly know that, and that makes it your opinion vs fact. That's how opinion vs. fact works, COULD BE being the operative word. Tony Jones played very well last week.

Yes. I agree on that potentially being a rostering mistake. However, I will wait to see what Wallace does in case the coaches know more about these two players than I do. From a fan perspective though, it seems odd. Coaches must really love what Wallace is bringing in practice? Bailey would be a half a dozen snaps max. Won't be a difference. I do get what you are saying that we could probably change a couple or three spots on the roster and upgrade them ON PAPER, but really at this part the depth chart I am willing to let the coach reward guys etc for work ethic etc. Why? because it won't really have much, if any of an impact anyway.

This is a pretty far out take. You may like J.Jones better but you don't have to make up **** to justify it. T.Jones is a good linebacker.