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Not as good as Lawler or Schoen. It's that simple. Not blue goggles just fact.

It helps keep prices down when your top 2 are not nearly as good as our top 2

Meh....Brady is coming off lousy because he is not thinking before he is posting. However, lots of players try to make it look like they MIGHT leave if they are lowballed prior to FA. If Brady thought how his posts make him look to Bomber fans I am sure he would rephrase many of them or just leave it to his agent. I still feel we sign Brady at a heckuva lot less than the numbers the media is throwing around.

Over rated imo.

God I hope you are right. Would be the best move we make all offseason. Interesting, but not all that surprising to me. Stan is the GOAT but last year we saw him slightly decline. Before anyone jumps down my throat, Stan despite declining is still an elite OT.

If one can consider paying Harris 500k again this year as good news....then hooray for them.

Just ask Bluto and you have already covered 50% of them.

I think the Elks and TO both win this trade for different reasons. The Argos are going to get raided in FA, and won't be able to do much about it due to SMS restraints. Of course, Mace will be spending to get some of his DL guys so Toronto was going to take a hit there. Gittens is the better player, but Ceresna gives them a stud DL under contract for about the same money and TO can watch Hendrix and Oakman go elsewhere. Not buying the cock and bull that Bluto is floating that Gittens was expendable, but there is a cost associated to a guy like Ceresna and Gittens is coming off a bad injury.

It is true. Yes, we've paid fairly but just off the top of my head both Lawler and Jefferson took less money than they were offered elsewhere to be in Winnipeg. Both players confirmed that they had better offers on the table in FA and chose to be here. That, of course, doesn't mean we didn't pay a ton for them just that others would have paid more.

We aren't making an offer over 170k to Brady imo.

Must be private conversations because, and I can't even believe I went and looked, I cannot find a single post suggesting it.

It`s hard to say really. He seems like he is chasing the dollars or the NFL. Then again, in a contract neg situation a lot of players say that.

Hall's health and age are what likely precipitated this move. Hall stays on for guidance, and Younger does the heavy lifting that Hall can no longer keep up with, or doesn't want to keep up with. Available for Younger to pick his brain. Of course he had a part to play in the coaching changes. Nonsense to suggest otherwise. Definitely, age, health, and probably motivation at this point are all factors. This is Hall's decision to step away and take a lesser role imo. Full credit to him for waiting until Younger was ready, and for sticking around a year just to make sure. Likely Hall`s swan song this year. I guess there is always the possibility that this was expedited because Mace tried to poach Younger, but I doubt it

Damon Allen early career was a great QB. Mid to late career journeyman.

Find me even one post where roster usage problems were denied. One. You won't find it. The only thing people argued about was how serious the effect of this problem was and that is completely fair imo. Look, I'm guilty of carrying on with Booch about the effect of roster management during the season. I just hoped he would give it a rest in the offseason because it is a horse that's been beaten to death. Bombers get rid of STC...and somehow roster management gets worked into the argument. It's tedious.

True, It's not like he played any differently from the year before and really not much has changed in the QB market.

Fair enough. However, I doubt this was the case as he is a pending FA and has no trade value at all.

The agent can offer that info but the second any CFL team comments back to that agent it's tampering. The very definition of it. You are not allowed to discuss players under contract with another team with their reps. PERIOD. You can back channel that info certainly though. Not really, but they could sure come in cheaper than our first and 2nd combined.

Look, no one was trying to drive Booch away. Wasn't anyone's intention at all. You are right that we can all have egos at times for sure and definitely behavior can be atrocious. That being said what was so atrocious that was said to Booch? All everyone was pointing out is that the roster management and MOS criticisms are now getting over the top. If that hurts Booch's sensibilities that was not the intention. It's the offseason. Let's see what happens this offseason before deciding what MOS will or won't do before INSISTING that he will do nothing. He moved on from his STC because results were below expectations, that's a good start....but when people acknowledged that Booch tried to sell us on a spin that would keep the MOS criticisms going instead of just acknowledging a good move by MOS and management. Why? I think what most of us who are saying we are tired of this narrative are trying to point out is that we literally have not had a discussion over the past 8-9 months where it hasn't been spun back to this same criticism over and over again even when it is completely inapplicable. I am not against upgrades at any position that make us younger and better. I just don't believe in setting someone adrift that is still very good until you have secured that upgrade.

The way I look at it is that a 1000 yard running back on our team won't be hard to find. Finding a 1200+ yard receiver will be very difficult and/or very expensive. Go with Schoen, and if Brady wants to chase dollars all the power to him but he should be very cognizant that a lot of his success came because we commit to the run and provide him with absolutely stud, and without equal in this league, run blocking. If he want to go to another team he will settle into a much less prominent role with the production that goes with that.

Unless he was released and I missed it, his agent can't talk to any CFL teams about him until a week prior to FA. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, of course, just that it isn't supposed to.

I never called it nauseating and have no doubt that you have some connections in regard to inside info. However, you will never convince me that you have any insider knowledge of how and who makes executive decisions in regards to the Bombers front office. They are a closed shell and notoriously good at keeping things behind closed doors. Booch, everyone here values your input a lot. It's just that your criticisms have been heard, acknowledged, and yet you keep repeating them over and over again. No ones arguing with you. Your point was made and you keep going on about it. You went on to try and paint MOS with a bad brush when he made one of the changes he needed to make. That's not fair criticism anymore, that's bias.

I actually didn't quote you. I quoted you and commented then quoted Jonny and commented and the posts were merged. Exactly right. Let's wait and see what we got and what's available first before throwing out a very good MLB based on the fact he was injured in the Grey Cup.

I was referencing Jonny actually but since you responded with a counter that it is also not our job to judge a player's worth for coming back. If someone suggests we should cut bait on Adam Bighill after an all star season it is not unreasonable at all to ask who they think should replace him. Highly important little consideration that MUST go into it. Find someone else is not an answer. Cutting bait on veterans needs to happen for sure at some point, is it that time now? Highly debatable, depends entirely on who you gonna dress instead. Can't cut bait on an allstar MLB unless you got a guy that can play at that level. Do we have that guy? I don't see him on our roster. Look, I'm neither for or against keeping Bighill. If we can get a guy that replaces his play without constituting any drop off sign me up. However, Jonny was suggesting we just cut bait on Biggie and let the chips fall where they may.....and I disagree with that.

You don't know that. That is strictly your opinion and a very jaded one at that. Yea. I don't think it is within the realm of reality that MOS had no input into his coaching staff. That's just a crazy reach right there.