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I hope our scouting has one more Dalton waiting in the wings. For sure. Just saying that we have seen a couple of our new guys with other teams but not sure who is on their recruitment record. If all you value out of receivers is yardage then you have a point. Lewis and Lawler get paid for being game breakers. I guess that is what the GMs around the league value more.

Yea...we are not far off from having a really good DL. Our scouting group has vastly changed. Not sure what they are good at right now. Always happens and all he has signed so far from us he can have.

I'm still hoping for us to circle back to Lawler. Just feels right.

Lawler's agent told the Bombers he won't be back based on our offer. You don't see how adding half a million to the SMS might change what our offer is? You don't think changing our offer might get Kenny to stay? I would much rather chase McEwan or Couture than to try get Dobson re-signed. BOLO would be a nice add as well.

The difference is they can't talk to him again unless he declines both teams offers and goes to FA Yep..technically Kenny Lawler is under contract with the Bombers right now.

Why would Lawler talking to us surprise you? He would be an idiot not to do so if we called. No he doesn't have to accept our offer, but he probably would if the dollars are the same. Kenny went for the money but if we had offered it to him he would be here. Everything he's ever said about the Bombers backs that up.

Let's say Lawler gets a call from Walter's and he matches Hammy's offer in the 48 hour window. Hamilton CANNOT talk to Lawler again unless he opts to become a FA.

It is all very strange and hard to believe for sure. Whether GMs knew or didn't know the timing of the announcement is super weird. I just don't get why today?

Yesterday it was. Today? I'm not as sure on that.

My bad...2 hours...but we have the last 48 hours as an exclusive negotiating time with any of our pending FAs prior to that. It is my understanding that accepted terms with another team means that they may leave if they can't get their former team to sign them at the terms they want. Undoubtedly some players have no interest in returning to their former clubs, but I think a few will definitely pick up the phone for their former teams and see if there has been movement. I would almost guarantee that if Walters picks up the phone in that window and says "Kenny we found some extra SMS and will match Hammy's offer" that Kenny will say send me over the contract. Conversely, I could definitely see a few guys phoning the league at 10 am on FA day and saying never mind I'm going to try out FA now.

No one has signed anything, and this pre-FA window is set up so that players and teams can do exactly that. They are not signed by their new team until they advise the CFL one hour prior to FA that they accept the offer that was made. This week before FA, is about players being able to test their worth on the market and for GMs to have an idea what that worth is. Nobody has moved teams yet. All CFL teams have an exclusive 48 hour window prior to 10am on FA opener in order to secure their own FA's that have accepted or not accepted other offers. It is literally what this week is for. No one should pencil in any player to any team until the gun goes off on FA. If we were to hypothetically go back to Lawler and say we will match Hammy's offer and he decides to stay, that is EXACTLY how this week is supposed to work and why it was implemented.

Yea....Ceresna told Edmonton radio that he just needed a decent offer from Edmonton, and that his family really wanted to return there.

If what Friesen is peddling is true, and teams have an exclusive negotiating window the last 48 hours before FA officially begins, I could see some players getting offers from their former team that might bring them back.

Had to be. CFLPA likely told not to announce until a specified date.

I find it pretty hard to believe that the GMs did not know that this would at least be a possibility. It appears to me that a couple of them rolled the dice that there would be a big jump, and most would not risk it. I could be out to lunch on that but the math around this FA adds up that way.

I am getting a very bad feeling that a couple GMs may have found out before others. It will be unprovable of course but we all know which two. Unbelievable really. HTF do teams go into FA without the info as to what the cap will be. Cameron Dukes Grey Cup MVP....im thinking that Bluto has been hitting the bong.

Randolph is miles better than Dobson and I honestly believe Wallace is too. Therefore better. That is one possible way our line is better and I have not even included the almost certainty that we will almost definitely be going to be bringing someone in. I never said we were miles better....just better. Could be guys like McEwan are weighing multiple offers still

You consider Dobson a loss, I don't. We can argue about that if you want but you won't change my mind on that. Addition by subtraction on both the DL and OL. Sorry, all i see is a bunch of scrubs walking away. Yep...I see Lawson coming back as an improvement that will radically chance JT's usage, I see Vaughters as way better than Haba/Garbutt.

Walters and Osh likely have long conversations about preferred roster, and then Kyle does the best he can after within the SMS. I am sure that if say a Kenny Lawler becomes too expensive that Walters circles back to Osh and lets him know what options are on the table. We can keep Lawler but have to let X other player walk, or we let Kenny go and I try pivot this way....etc. Football is a business, and I am sure that MOS would love every player to be back plus 10 more....however, Walters is responsible for slicing the pie and he tells MOS who he can have off his wishlist. I am sure there are some lively conversations that go back and forth but at the end of the day we live in a SMS world.

I think Kyle and Osh work extremely closely together on the roster, and that Miller is very much in the loop.

Anyone suggesting that MOS is a poor coach overall is crazy. He is a fantastic coach with a few flaws.

I'm not suggesting that Hogan was a better candidate necessarily than Bourgoin or Marty. I am saying that Hogan is not some scrub off the street that stole a job. He is a highly regarded coach and someone, obviously, the Bombers know a bunch about. I am sure that Marty and Bourgoin had their interviews as part of the process, Hogan got the job and it probably came with Buck's endorsement. Reverence from the masses is more a sign of longevity for position coaches. Yea people speak highly about Marty or Kevin as position coaches but that doesn't necessarily equate to being a good coordinator.

Didn't think they would go with an internal hire at all. Never mentioned a single staffer of Buck's. Really thought it was between JJ and Lapo. I didn't consider Marty as a possible candidate whatsoever, and Bourgoin in my mind was a real long shot. Buck was Lapo's number 2 and we saw some variance from Lapo's offence.

Hogan's name is very well regarded as well. Was interviewed last year for a vacant OC job. I'm surprised you weren't aware of his up and coming rep in coaching circles. When I was talking to Buck at an offseason coaching clinic it was Hogan he identified as the unsung hero and his number 2, not Bourgoin.

I think at this point and time we have to do so, but I fully expect him to be back some time this season.