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Sucession plan? Gimme a break. This is the age of one year contracts. Succession plans aren't even realistic anymore nor are they particularly necessary....and I think you are selling MOS contribution way short but hey you've chosen to grind that axe this year so have at it. I will agree to disagree.

I don't think Bomber fans have much to complain about in our secondary tbh, and the stats back that up. Best in the league. I'm a very results oriented big picture guy tho so I tend not to be too critical of the odd mistakes people make. Players..coaches..they are not infallible and all screw up. I like to look at the entire body of work and the end results. Just me tho.

No doubt. Straight line speed is not football speed Rose has been mostly good imo.

All of them. A very coherent argument can be made that they never did hire one. Jefferies has the role. but he was in way over his head.

Losing Grant for 2/3 of the season will do that. However, you will never convince me that if ZC isn't hobbled we don't win that game easy.

I would take Dickie as our ST coordinator.

They are not wrong in so far as this could bite us in the ass at some point. However, I am not that afraid of this happening with the current talent level we have. If we were a mid tier team this could be problematic....but we aren't. I guess that's the bottom line for me. I'm just not that willing to go off on one particular flaw of a coach when he is delivering what we are paying him to do overall. That's just me I guess, and I tend to be a big picture guy. Could other guys do just as well with this roster? MAYBE....we don't know for sure and it would be really, really stupid to find out.

I have heard our current NAT content criticized lately. I am of the belief that we have done very well keeping as many as we can. It's tough under the SMS. It's possible when you don't draft any. For some odd reason O'Day just doesn't seem to want to stock that cupboard.

If we lost all our coordinators in an offseason...yea...that would be problematic all right. Losing them AND losing MOS would not be a great scenario. Could Buck take over and do well? I hope so, he's had enough years under MOS to understand how to do it right. I haven't heard anyone suggest that our Bomber management team from the top down is anything but top notch? Kyle and Wade get plenty of praise for their work. Both men have openly admitted that MOS does a phenomenal job with the team culture and cultivating a winning room, I am sure MOS would give both men credit for the tools to make that happen.

I don't give two figs about MOS. I just respect his record of accomplishments over the past several seasons. He's not perfect, No one is but I doubt there is anyone else around that gets the results he does if he were to leave. Not right away anyway. However, again...I will state my objection is solely over the fact that some suggestions were made that MOS is not a good coach and is winning due solely to his roster. I think that's nonsense.

MOS is directly responsible for a lot of Kyle's work. Many players have outright said they either came here or remained here because MOS is the coach. Absolute nonsense to not give him any credit for our past few years success. I have zero issue with the results he gets, and yeah.....every coach has a better win/loss record as their team roster gets better. It would be very difficult to suggest that MOS has underachieved though, pretty damn good success rate and no...not all of that is on the roster. Culture, cohesion, getting the most out of his leadership group, building his room, discipline, work ethic....those are just some of the things MOS does for this team in an extremely good manner.

I'm all for constructive criticism when it's not over the top. However, many of Mike's criticisms have included suggestions that MOS does nothing to prepare his guys on game day etc, and maybe his days as HC should be numbered. That's not constructive criticism that's just taking it too far. MOS is the best HC in this league. I doubt Mike would admit that. If he feels that way, I certainly haven't gotten that impression from any post this year. I will retract if so, but really my defence of MOS is because I believe Mike has lost sight of that. I am not blindly defending the team, it's coaching, or anything else...I am simply measuring their performance by wins and losses. I am fully aware of some of the deficiencies MOS has shown. The good is still outweighing the bad by a very significant margin and that shows in the win column. That's not blind faith...that's sports. I honestly don't believe the team deserves as many drive by's as they have been getting this year by some posters. Just my opinion and I will voice it. I honestly don't feel that the Bombers deserved any criticism for the PR specifically on Schoen's injury.

Not even remotely what I said, you are putting words in my mouth. I said I couldn't name any, and then asked if you could. That was a legit question not a dare, nor did I ever imply that you couldn't. That seems to be your MO lately tho, is to try and twist other people's words. This is the stuff I'm talking about....you are so dead set on bashing the team this year, that you are putting words in other people's mouths so that you can build a strawman argument that will favor your point of view. Somebody from the Bombers piss in your cornflakes this year or steal your woman at closing time? You wanna talk reality? Let's talk reality....5 straight West finals, 3 straight Grey Cups.....I don't NEED to defend anything...this team doesn't need someone defending them at all costs their win/loss record does that for them. I can't believe all year you've spent pissing and moaning about our club when you should be enjoying the ride while it lasts. Unfortunate you have become TB.

Last year at the end of one practice Holm, Parker, Ford, and Grant were all coaxed into a 40 yd dash race as the team cheered them on. Winner: Evan Holm by a hair. It was very, very close and from the stands you couldn't tell who won from all 4. However, Holm got all the high 5s from teammates afterwards.

None. Doesn't happen in Canada at the provincial level. That's a federal money ask. Could you imagine trying to explain to the citizens of Calgary why they have to attend games in a garbage dump but are paying for an NFL stadium in Toronto.

All turned out to be decent players for sure. 174 players have gone through CFL PRs in the past 3 seasons according to CFL transactions page. You have come up with a list of 8 guys. On the outside chance you missed even another 8...that's a 10% batting average of guys on the PR developing into CFL starters. One guy a year on average. I think once Haba gets more seasoning he will be that guy for us, so tell me how much worse we are using our PR than everyone else again.

There is absolutely no doubt that Rigmaiden is one of the best talent evaluators in the CFL and losing him will always have some impact. He was just one of several excellent talent evaluators we had though. I like the talent we are bringing in still. Heck, some of the guys we have on the PR right now are likely future impact guys with us.

Ding ding ding....we do have guys on the PR who are likely very useful and are not dressing them. I'm not arguing that. My argument was that we are wasting spots on the PR on players who don't deserve that spot. I disagree. We did and we should have, and based on our current global punters performance I am not so sure we should have let him go just yet, Had Sheahan been more consistent I doubt we hang onto the other guy for as long.

So Rasheed, 4 years ago got into 4 games for us. One every 4-5 years and that's in our competitive hey day. As for rotating guys out of our PR...I think we can't be sour grapes about getting rid of guys on the PR while at the same time saying we are not rotating guys off the PR enough.

I don't think so. Look at the talent that has gone straight to our 45 man from recruitment. Teams around the league have to use the PR for scrub NATs and Globals. Just a fact of life with our limited roster size. You can't cover off every position on the field with capable backups coming off the PR. There are only 10 spots.

Depends what the injury is. The fact it was weight bearing afterwards is encouraging. A severe high ankle sprain, achilles, or torn ligaments and he would have had to be helped off the field. No way he is standing around on the sidelines after any of those. My guess is a bad lower ankle sprain and his timeline for that is all over the map, but 4 weeks has been done many times.

I'm not defending anything. Wasting spots on guys who will never make the roster? How many guys do you suppose make the roster of the teams that bring them in league wide? You are being completely unrealistic. The CFL PR for every team has always been a revolving door and always will be. You don't know what some of these guys on there will do in the future. Alston, Fox, etc could very well end up as all-stars in this league for all we know. Please name me one player in the past 10 years that was brought in by any team, put on the PR to begin the season, and then made an impact before that year was out. There are probably a couple....but I can't think of one....can you?

There is no question losing Schoen and the trade offs we have to make is a big loss. Hopefully he is back in the playoffs and we take care of business on Saturday so that the next couple weeks don't matter after that. If Schoen is out for the season, well....Walters may have to so some work.

I'm not an Argo fan but for some strange reason I will be tonight.

Before Lawler returned McCrae had already beaten out Agudosi for his spot. Yes, McCrae is not a typical receiver but we found ways to make him a productive part of our starting offence earlier this season and I see no reason why we can't do the same now. Before Lawler arrived this was basically our receiving corps swap Schoen for Lawler. We do have a guy who actually a traditional receiver on the PR in Ravi Alston, and in the meantime we had McCrae who is a guy we have started numerous times and has been quite productive for us at receiver, not to mention BOLO who deserves way more playing time than he has received. I fail to see the issue. Like I stated earlier, we have 10 guys max on the PR and a guy like BOLO here. There was no urgency to keep Agudosi, or to bring in someone game ready to the PR. We had a receiver recruit that was ready to come here that we must have really liked and was willing to come now, and we made room for him on the PR. That is what the PR is for. I would rather we move guys out of the PR and look at others once we know there upside won't be enough. Agudosi was 30 years old and wasn't ever going to crack our starting lineup. This new kid Alston....who knows? The injury to Schoen just happens to coincide with him not being here long enough to take the field but who knows...maybe we elevate this kid in a week or two if Schoen is long term.