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There is absolutely no doubt that Rigmaiden is one of the best talent evaluators in the CFL and losing him will always have some impact. He was just one of several excellent talent evaluators we had though. I like the talent we are bringing in still. Heck, some of the guys we have on the PR right now are likely future impact guys with us.

Ding ding ding....we do have guys on the PR who are likely very useful and are not dressing them. I'm not arguing that. My argument was that we are wasting spots on the PR on players who don't deserve that spot. I disagree. We did and we should have, and based on our current global punters performance I am not so sure we should have let him go just yet, Had Sheahan been more consistent I doubt we hang onto the other guy for as long.

So Rasheed, 4 years ago got into 4 games for us. One every 4-5 years and that's in our competitive hey day. As for rotating guys out of our PR...I think we can't be sour grapes about getting rid of guys on the PR while at the same time saying we are not rotating guys off the PR enough.

I don't think so. Look at the talent that has gone straight to our 45 man from recruitment. Teams around the league have to use the PR for scrub NATs and Globals. Just a fact of life with our limited roster size. You can't cover off every position on the field with capable backups coming off the PR. There are only 10 spots.

Depends what the injury is. The fact it was weight bearing afterwards is encouraging. A severe high ankle sprain, achilles, or torn ligaments and he would have had to be helped off the field. No way he is standing around on the sidelines after any of those. My guess is a bad lower ankle sprain and his timeline for that is all over the map, but 4 weeks has been done many times.

I'm not defending anything. Wasting spots on guys who will never make the roster? How many guys do you suppose make the roster of the teams that bring them in league wide? You are being completely unrealistic. The CFL PR for every team has always been a revolving door and always will be. You don't know what some of these guys on there will do in the future. Alston, Fox, etc could very well end up as all-stars in this league for all we know. Please name me one player in the past 10 years that was brought in by any team, put on the PR to begin the season, and then made an impact before that year was out. There are probably a couple....but I can't think of one....can you?

There is no question losing Schoen and the trade offs we have to make is a big loss. Hopefully he is back in the playoffs and we take care of business on Saturday so that the next couple weeks don't matter after that. If Schoen is out for the season, well....Walters may have to so some work.

I'm not an Argo fan but for some strange reason I will be tonight.

Before Lawler returned McCrae had already beaten out Agudosi for his spot. Yes, McCrae is not a typical receiver but we found ways to make him a productive part of our starting offence earlier this season and I see no reason why we can't do the same now. Before Lawler arrived this was basically our receiving corps swap Schoen for Lawler. We do have a guy who actually a traditional receiver on the PR in Ravi Alston, and in the meantime we had McCrae who is a guy we have started numerous times and has been quite productive for us at receiver, not to mention BOLO who deserves way more playing time than he has received. I fail to see the issue. Like I stated earlier, we have 10 guys max on the PR and a guy like BOLO here. There was no urgency to keep Agudosi, or to bring in someone game ready to the PR. We had a receiver recruit that was ready to come here that we must have really liked and was willing to come now, and we made room for him on the PR. That is what the PR is for. I would rather we move guys out of the PR and look at others once we know there upside won't be enough. Agudosi was 30 years old and wasn't ever going to crack our starting lineup. This new kid Alston....who knows? The injury to Schoen just happens to coincide with him not being here long enough to take the field but who knows...maybe we elevate this kid in a week or two if Schoen is long term.

It requires different usage for sure and he adds a little redundancy with Demski for sure. However, the way we utlilized him and Demski vs. Calgary earlier this year with both guys in motion in the backfield was giving Calgary fits that game. Bottom line we could expect Adugosi to provide about 50 yds a game of production realistically and there is no reason to not expect the same from McCrae. Yea....I agree. McCrae forces us into a kind of a different look but it's not something we haven't done before with success. Schoen being out now is not a whole lot different than when Lawler missed the first 6 games. We will just have to adapt to it.

Might? I mean I guess theoretically they could win but I wouldn't bet a nickel on them.

Yes, using McCrae requires a little bit of a different look to our offence. Not sure that's a bad thing right now.

For sure. Those million dollar mortgages don't leave a lot of time or money left over and TO is absolutely awful in both regards for attending a game.

No he didn't. Would it be nice if the next Schoen was hiding on our PR unbeknownst to us and the rest of the CFL? Sure. Is it a realistic ask from a fan base? Nope.

By lots he means the 2 other ones.

We had Adugosi. It is arguable whether he was a viable replacement or at least any more viable than McCrae. McCrae isn't a true receiver in the traditional sense but he gave us a few good games this year and isn't chopped liver either. Pretty good coming from the PR imo. Imo, it's pretty unrealistic to expect difference makers to come in off the PR. All you can hope for off of any team's PR is either a raw rookie and the mistakes that come with that, a middling veteran like McCrae, or an over the hill veteran. None of the 3 are going to be particularly viable. This is especially true for any team as loaded SMS wise as we are in our game day roster. We, and other teams that are dominant, just simply cannot have a fully loaded PR chock full of budding stars because players of that calibre have too many other football options now that are better than 500 bucks a week. I mean seriously, if you are a recruit to this league at receiver do you sit on a PR behind Lawler, Schoen, and Bailey in the hopes that they get injured because that is your only realistic chance of rostering? Lots of times the guys ahead of your drive the desirability of your PR. Guys want some kind of realistic chance they can win a position.

If it is a high ankle sprain, but there is no way it would have been weight bearing afterwards if it was.

The CFL has a 10 player PR size so that is kind of an inevitability in our league. We are activating Greg McRae aren't we?

That scenario sounds ideal. We may not even let the waterboys out there just to make sure.

Johnny Augustine says what and Simonise, and Petermann say it's not quite that simple.

There is nothing good about indifferent ownership. Nothing. Not in a league like the CFL. A strong performing Argos franchise, not just on the field, is essential to league survival. There is more at stake than how many millys the MLSE is willing to take. Not when league survival needs a fan base, which is non-existent, in it's biggest centre. Like all things Toronto, you cannot see past your self declared centre of the universe. Our league survives on TV contracts, advertising, and corporate sponsorship. Without Toronto, BC, and Montreal having strong fan bases this league will struggle to survive. Luckily there is good ownership now in 2 out of the 3. Toronto should be absolutely embarrassed as a city that they have a very strong Argos team that can't draw flies. That's not all on ownership. No wonder the NFL wants no part of the city.

We have crushed their will to compete 2 straight years,

For sure. I like Walker but he should be a rotational guy.

Late season Bombers or early season Jets...it's a no brainer.

We are not getting home for sacks at the rate one would expect, but we are 3rd in the league in defensive pressure % so it is not as bad as the sack numbers would have us believe.